God calls all mature Christians to publicly rebuke those elders that commit serious sin (1 Tim. 5:20) within the Body of Christ. If you are a pastor and preach lies, God requires that we answer those lies with the truth. So, I write and speak with this burden on my heart. And, I am forced to proclaim that Chuck Baldwin, is a false teacher and even a false brother.
He lies about our brothers and sisters in Christ.
He preaches abominable heresy.
He slanders the innocent.
Jesus called such Pharisees vipers. I believe that He would call Chuck Baldwin a snake and an example of what you should NOT do, when you learn something new.
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Chuck Baldwin is a False Teacher and an Object Lesson
YouTube shortlink: https://youtu.be/tdewokxEp2Y
We all make mistakes. In fact, it is not possible for you to not make a mistake about the truth of the Bible. That’s why we need mature Christians around us, to show us the mistakes that we’ve made. And, no matter how many years you’ve been a Christian, you will make mistakes.
And, by definition, every mistake is a form of heresy.
Normally, we use the term ‘heresy’ to denote any theory or concept that is strongly opposed to the core teachings of the Bible. And, if you want to limit yourself to that definition, that’s fine. But, I also know that God’s definition of righteousness is much stronger than yours and mine. He sees the heart of everything, and I believe that HIS definition of heresy covers a lot more than we think – just as His forgiveness covers a lot more than we think, as well. And yes, God WILL forgive you for making honest mistakes about what the Bible actually says.
Rebellion Is Satanism To God
However, an honest mistake is one thing. Rebellion is quite another. If you rebel against God, then you will suffer the wrath of God.
The clearest verse on rebellion is here:
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
– 1 Samuel 15:23
So, Rebellion = Satanism
Think about that.
If you rebel against the commands of God, it is as if you were a worshiper of Satan in the eyes of God. And, that makes perfect sense, since Satan’s sin was to lift himself up with pride and then rebel against God. He was the first rebel, and he seeks to cause us to rebel against God. And, as we look at the latest examples of Chuck Baldwin’s heresy, we will find that…
…Chuck Baldwin has rebelled against God.
It gives me no pleasure to say that. I would love to be proven wrong, but a video that came out on May 23rd does not leave me with any other alternative than to proclaim him a rebel against God. Here’s the video:
The Christian Zionist Deception w/ Pastor Chuck Baldwin
THAT is a horrifying, nauseating and maddening video. Some of the things that Chuck Baldwin says in that interview are such obvious lies, that I am shocked that he would dare to say them publicly. But, I don’t want to get into those lies just yet. I want to look at how he went wrong. And, he went wrong by getting one thing right, and what he did afterwards should stand as an object lesson and a painful example of what NOT to do, when you learn something new.
Chuck Started Off Right
His ‘one thing right’ begins at the three minute mark of the video, and here’s what he said:
All of my formal training was founded and grounded in Christian Zionism, so the only thing I knew on prophecy regarding Israel was what I was taught. So, I as a pastor, I regurgitated that information for the next thirty years in my church and I believed it. I taught it. I really didn’t question it.
So, I mean people need to understand that I’m not a guy that came from an anti-Zionist Christian perspective. I was a guy that was actually part of that entire system for over three decades.
So, my process probably starts about 2007. And, in about 2007, I began to be uncomfortable with the dispensational eschatology that I had been taught. Every time I mentioned it, either casually or specifically, I got this feeling in my gut that something wasn’t right.
I couldn’t explain it. I had no idea why I was feeling that way. Because, after all, this is something I’d taught for over 30 years. I’m going… you know …what is this?!
At first, I ignored it and thinking anything about it, but it never went away. It persisted continually. At the very thought or the very mention of the subject, I got this uneasiness in my soul. So, after several months of that, I was sagacious enough, to have been walking with the Lord long enough, to know that when that kind of thing starts happening that’s the Holy Spirit.
So I began to pray to the Lord and say okay what is this. What am I feeling. What are you wanting to teach me. So then, I had to go through this whole process of being willing to unlearn a doctrine that I had been taught and that I had taught my entire life. And Adam, I’ve got to tell you that the hardest thing for anyone to do… is not to learn something …it’s to unlearn something.
It takes far more effort and and time to unlearn a falsehood than it does to learn a truth.
He realized that something was wrong with his view of eschatology and the concept of The Church. Deep down, he understood that there was a lot that was wrong with Dispensationalism. He couldn’t put a finger on it, but he sensed a deep-seated error.
So, he launched into a process of trying to understand WHAT was wrong, and he was definitely on the right track. So, let me go back to what he said:
So my process was I had to unlearn this. I mean… you know ….think about it. All these years and decades and all these teachings. And think of the notes. Think of the books. Think of the material that I had, backing up all this perspective. You know… I mean …this was the only thing I knew, relative to eschatology, was this dispensational Israel-first-based eschatology system. And so, finally… – I mean we’re talking probably at least a year or more – …I came to this point… I said, “okay Lord, I want to know the truth. You’re obviously trying to show me that I’m not understanding truth as I should, so I need to know.
So, I deliberately put aside all my books, all my classroom notes, all the videos, all the… everything that I had been taught by man relative to this subject. I deliberately set it aside. I didn’t look at it. I didn’t read any of it. Nothing. I did not look at any man’s… I didn’t look at what …you know… what the preterist said. I didn’t look at what the post-millennial said. I didn’t look at anybody else’s version of eschatology.
I didn’t look at anything along those lines. I just made a conscious decision that I was going to search the Scriptures, alone. I was going to pray and ask the Holy Spirit to show me truth and trust God to do that strictly through the study of his word. And, that’s what I did for the next several years. I just got into his word and poured over the scriptures, without any human instrumentality to assist me, and then praying to God to lead me through the Scriptures.
THAT is a pretty good way of going about this kind of thing. I had a similar process of awakening 20-plus years ago, and did something similar. I submitted myself to the words of the Bible, and allowed those words alone to guide me out of the foolishness that I believed and had been taught to believe.
Where Chuck Went Wrong
Unfortunately, his reaction was different from my own.
Here is how he reacted:
And, as I began to go through the scriptures, with this open mind that I had, this new open mind that I had, and I got to tell you the it it was shocking. Because I came to realize pretty soon in this process, that everything I had been taught relative to Christian Zionism, which they don’t even like to call themselves that, for the most part, but the whole Israel-based doctrinal positions of prophecy, was a lie. It was falsehood. It was totally untrue. Once I came to that realization the shock to my system was terrific. I mean it was just, oh my god, I spent the last three decades espousing a lie, teaching a lie, telling other people an untruth.
I got to tell you that’s a humbling and a humiliating thought, that… here I am a seeker of truth, wanting to more than anything, wanting to know truth, wanting to teach truth, responsible for the souls of the people that I deliver truth to …and here I wake up to the reality that for 30 years I had taught a falsehood. Man oh man, I got to tell you that that caused such a remorse and and such a humiliation of my heart and mind and I begged God for weeks and months to forgive me and…
What do I do now?
To boil down his reaction to one sentence:
He was embarrassed.
Yes, I know that he couched his response in ‘godly’ language. But, you can tell that it was NOT a Godly response, because of what he says later in this interview. A Godly response does NOT turn to lies to assuage feelings of embarrassment. A Godly response does not twist what is good and seek to defame the innocent. Nor, does a Godly response seek to mislabel the mistakes of others.
Furthermore, instead of carefully and patiently letting God teach him the truth, he rushed into Preterism. He could have waited for the other pieces of the puzzle to fall into place, but he didn’t.
He was embarrassed. He was ashamed of himself. His pride was offended, so he felt the need to turn on what he thought of as the source of his embarrassment:
Instead of patiently seeking to understand Israel’s place in eschatology, he threw everything labeled ‘Israel’ into a box and called that box ‘The Church’. Instead of seeing that the Old Testament is still awash in prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled, he chose instead to close the Old Testament and forget that it has anything to say about our future – and the future of Israel.
Replacement Theology was an easy way out of his embarrassing position, so he grabbed it with both hands and spoon-fed it to his congregation. And, when you see the videos of him preaching this abomination to his congregation, you can see the pride in his voice and body language.
But, I’m getting ahead of myself.
Chuck Turns Towards Stealth And Deception
Here is where he becomes a snake:
And so, the more I learned and the more I was able to start putting this together… then it became obvious that my job was to publicly recant my position which I have done many times and then to begin to teach people what is the truth about Israel and what is the truth about Bible prophecy etc. relating to Israel.
And, so that’s what I’ve been doing, and I actually started the process of teaching this material in 2014. And I did it very gradually and very carefully to my congregation here in Kalispell Montana. I wanted to be sure that you know that I was able to bring these people along in a way that would build their faith and not destroy it.
And so, for the last five years, I have been systematically and very carefully bringing these this subject matter to the forefront of our people. And now then, of course, our people are taught and they are solid on the subject, and I’m able to go deeper now into Bible eschatology – in which I’m going to be doing on the next several months in a couple of years. But, the point is this has been a a a ten year plus process for me to unlearn the falsehood that I had learned, and then to begin understanding what is the the truth …and then to begin to disseminate and teach the truth to people.
And I got to tell you – for me personally, Adam – this has brought such a liberation and such a freedom of my heart in my mind and my soul that it’s it’s undescribable. I mean it, from from a biblical spiritual perspective. I’ve never been happier in my life than I am with the truth that that God has shown me.
With the carefulness of a serpent, Chuck has led his congregation into darkness. And, it sickens me to see it.
What Chuck Should Have Done Instead
Instead of humbling himself before God and ‘his’ congregation, he chose the path of pride and arrogance. Yes, he moans over the ‘persecution’ that he received for abandoning Dispensationalism, but it’s a persecution that is richly deserved.
Yes, Dispensationalism is incorrect. That is the one thing that Chuck got right. Unfortunately, ‘getting one thing right’ just isn’t enough. You need humility and patience to get the rest of the message. You need enough humility to be able to say that you don’t know, when someone asks you a question that you can’t answer.
The path to truth always requires humility. You can’t get there any other way. It also requires patience and a willingness to wait upon the Lord for HIS direction. Remember that King Saul lost his kingdom because he was not willing to wait for the Lord. He was disobedient to the direct command from God – via Samuel – to wait.
And, let me add that Chuck should have taken the time to read the Bible through, over and over. Nothing can replace that. If you aren’t breathing in the entirety of the Bible, you are missing the core principles that God wants you to have. You need to be armed against the powerful delusions that seek our destruction, and you cannot be armed without a thorough knowledge of what the Bible says.
You have one.
All of it.
Over and over.
Yes, it will take patience. Yes, you will need to sacrifice some of your time. Yes, your progress will be slow. But, it is a soul-deep process that will stick with you for the rest of your life.
Dr. Baldwin missed an incredible opportunity for growth, when he turned away from the Bible and towards heretical commentaries. He represents a powerful lesson in the need for patience, restraint and endurance. He also stands as an example of the eternal price that you will pay, if you will not wait for the Lord to lead. Chuck should have continued his study of the Bible, using only the Bible. He should have waited for God to direct his thoughts and understanding. He should have waited for God to arrange the pieces of the eschatology puzzle, in a way that did not violate scripture. And, if God chose NOT to reveal the whole picture to him, he should have had the humility to accept such a decision from God. Unfortunately, his lack of humility, patience and endurance was his undoing.
Chuck Chooses Rebellion
You can see all that, when you watch his sermons. His inappropriate anger and frustration with his flock, from the pulpit, demonstrates a tremendous lack of both humility and patience. And, we have already seen his unwillingness to wait for God’s direction. Again, he could have waited for God to move through the Holy Spirit, and show him the rest of the picture, but he chose to throw out all of the prophecies of the Bible and take up Preterism.
That choice was nothing less than rebellion and direct disobedience to God.
Yes, he searched the scriptures to see if Dispensationalism was wrong. But, he stopped searching the scriptures, when he realized the need for a different eschatology. Instead of searching the Bible, he searched his commentaries. And, he must have had several preterist commentaries, for him to be pushed in that direction.
Chuck The Preterist
How do I know this?
He claims that everything that happened in the Book of Revelation HAS ALREADY HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
If you need proof, watch his sermon on this, here:
That ‘sermon’ was given on May 19th, just a couple of weeks ago. And, he starts out by saying that everything that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24, HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.
What an utterly horrifying and vile thing to say. And, he compounds his arrogant villainy by claiming that Revelation is not about the future, but about Rome and the Roman Catholic Church – of the past.
When I started looking into what Chuck Baldwin believes, I was hoping that he would not go this far. But, he has, and I am shocked and appalled that he has done this. And, he doesn’t end there in that foul sermon. He goes on to pile on lie after lie about Israel and the Jews, but I will leave THAT for a bit later.
The main thing that you need to understand is that he jumped from error to abomination. And, there are two verses that should scare ANYONE who wishes to teach on eschatology:
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
– Revelation 22:18-19
Dispensationalists have added to the Book of Revelation, and will suffer for that sin, in this life. Nowhere in the Bible is there ANY mention of a rapture before the Great Tribulation begins. You won’t find it anywhere, or even a hint that it’s in there, because it’s a false teaching. If you believe in a pretribulation rapture, you believe in a lie and will suffer the consequences.
Again, if you add to the Book of Revelation, you will suffer what verse 18 says. And, I believe that this message is directed at those who live in the Last Days. BUT, you will still go to heaven.
Verse 19 says something different. Those who take away from the Book of Revelation will suffer great and agonizing loss. Or, even HELL. For eternity. And, Chuck Baldwin has done the one thing that Revelation 22:19 warned him against. Worse, he hasn’t just taken AWAY from the Book of Revelation, he has eliminated it.
Chuck The Wolf Pastor
Chuck has thrown out Revelation, and he rebukes those members of his church who do not accept what he says. And, he delivers that rebuke from the pulpit. All that you need to do is watch his May 19th sermon (above) on YouTube. His pride. His anger. It’s all there for anyone to see. And, if you attend his church, you will suffer his wrath and indignation, if you disagree with him.
And, it is wrong for a pastor to act like this.
If your pastor berates members of your church, from the pulpit, for disagreeing with him on how he interprets the Bible, it’s time for you to get a new pastor. A pastor needs to be humble and willing to be admonished. He needs to lead his flock with love and gentleness and not beat them.
Your pastor should be the most humble man in your church. He should be the most righteous. He should be the most kind, etc. Yes, I know that this isn’t fair for a pastor to be burdened like this, but there is nothing fair about being a pastor – just like there’s nothing fair about being a Christian, or benefiting from the great sacrifice of Jesus on the cross.
A pastor needs to lead by example, and Chuck Baldwin is a very, very bad example for the members of his church.
I have been greatly blessed by having two good pastors in my life. They demonstrated patience, love, humility, kindness and spiritual maturity. When they were attacked, they did not respond in hurt pride and wrath. They never berated you from the pulpit. They loved you, even when you disagreed with them. They loved their enemies and did good to those who did evil to them. And, their example stands in stark contrast to Chuck Baldwin.
And, let me add, for those of you who feel hurt by my condemnation of Dispensationalism:
Those two pastors that I admire so much, are Dispensationalists.
I also have wonderful friends who are Dispensationalists, that I would trust with my life. They have demonstrated a true faith in Christ, and what it means to follow Christ. Yes, Dispensationalism is an incorrect view of the Bible, but there are far, far worse things than that. Dispensationalism does not invalidate your salvation. Unfortunately, Revelation 22:19 seems to indicate that Preterism, Amillennialism and Post Millennialism WILL invalidate your salvation.
I could stop here, and it would be enough. Unfortunately, there is a lot more to say. And, what follows is actually confirmation of the above.
Chuck The Liar
Notice what Mr. Baldwin calls Dispensationalists. He calls them Christian Zionists. In fact, he twists what they believe by claiming that Christian Zionism is the REASON why they believe in Dispensationalism. And THAT is a disgusting lie.
Dispensationalists are Zionists because of what the Bible says about Israel, and more specifically, Zion – aka, Jerusalem. Because the BIBLE speaks about the return of Israel to the Land of Israel, Dispensationalists support a clearly Biblical Zionism. It’s that simple.
God said it, so they believe it.
I feel the same way.
But, Chuck Baldwin twists what Dispensationalists believe, claiming that it is all about Israel and the Jews, and not an honest response to what God says in the Bible. This demonstrates the darkness in Chuck’s heart. He knows that what he is saying is a lie. But, he’s telling the lie, anyway. And, he’s broadcasting the lie to those who are the enemies of God. Just look at the videos by Adam Green, the guy interviewing Chuck.
How dare anyone make common cause with those who are the enemies of God. Adam Green’s hatred of the Jews is so intense, I am amazed. It is hard to find a single video on his channel that isn’t about how evil and awful the Jews are. I am amazed at how corrupt his mind is. No one should hate ANY group of people as much as Adam Green hates the Jews.
Chuck The Antisemite
Unfortunately, Chuck agrees with Adam. And, he makes statements throughout the interview that directly support Adam’s antisemitism. Worse, those who support this brand of neo-Nazism will now be able to point to Chuck Baldwin’s brand of false Christianity for support of their foul evil. This is just like those evil churches in Nazi Germany that gave vocal support to Hitler.
It really is that evil.
He then adds even MORE insult to this injury by defaming a country that lives ever day under the threat of death, from an evil and vile enemy that outnumbers them, by multiple times. That country is Israel, and the lies that he tells about Israel are appalling.
I don’t expect people to love Israel. With all of the lies being told about Israel, I’m always a little surprised when people show care and affection for that persecuted country. However, I DO expect people to not hate Israel. But, Chuck Baldwin HATES Israel. With. A. Passion.
He grabs and swallows down every vile and despicable lie about Israel and the Jews, every single lie that he can possibly find. And, he broadcasts those lies to those who hate God and Israel. I have personally fought those lies for decades, and to hear him spout such infamous abominations is truly horrifying.
How dare he do this.
How dare he!
Israel is completely and utterly innocent of the lies that he is telling. I was there. I know. Furthermore, I have the education and experience to understand what I saw in my 15 years in Jerusalem. I KNOW that Chuck Baldwin is lying. And yes, the word is lying.
Some might want to call what he is doing as ‘willful untruth’, but that’s not what God would call those lies. God calls what he is doing as straight up lying. He has deliberately chosen to ignore any information that would contradict what he believes. He believes that Israel is evil, and refuses to contemplate any alternative to his way of thinking.
It is a truly evil thing to make such corrupt accusations against the innocent. He defends and supports the Satanic idolatry of the Palestinians. He supports the wicked enemies of Israel, and embraces those who seek the destruction of an innocent country. He may even – himself – desire to see Israel destroyed.
Just like the Pharisees in the time of Jesus, this man is a snake and a false brother. He has taken the truth and turned it into a lie. For anyone to claim Christ as his Lord and Savior, and then do what he has done… well …it’s an abomination. With his actions, he blasphemes the name of our Lord.
Worse, he is leading others into the same trap that he has been caught in. I fear for the spiritual safety of those who are members of his church in Kalispell, Montana. They are being taught by a false teacher who has partnered himself with the enemies of God. Yet, I know that God will protect those who are true to Him. And, from the railing accusations that he makes to certain members from the pulpit, it is clear that there are some in that church who still oppose Chuck’s idolatry.
May God bless them and give them strength.
I am tempted to take each one of Chuck’s false accusations and refute them, point-by-point. And, I have done that with similar accusations in other articles and videos. But, to focus on his lies would be to give them a respect that they do not deserve.
Last Minute Heresy From Chuck Baldwin
Oh, and just as I was about to publish this article and record this video, Chuck came up with this whopper of a sermon:
Christian, Your Allegiance Is To Christ, Not Faux Israel! – by Dr. Chuck Baldwin on Jun. 2, 2019
The first 15 minutes are correct. If you believe in following the law, you are in deep, deep trouble with God. It is idolatry to pick up the ceremonial law of the Old Testament. Never do that. And, Baldwin is right to criticize the Dispensationalists for believing that the ceremonial law of the Old Testament will return. BUT, around the 20 minute mark, he goes straight into the foul heresy of Replacement Theology.
It is right for him to be against the Judaizers, but for him to preach replacement theology… wow.
Please remember that we are the wild olive branches that were grafted in, in place of the natural branches. Paul specifically spoke against Replacement Theology in Romans 11. I am tempted to quote the relevant parts, but I’ve already gone on too long. So, please read Romans 11, yourself:
The point is that God WILL bring Israel back to Himself, in Christ. You don’t have to understand why. I don’t really get all of it myself. But, that doesn’t matter. God has proclaimed the return of the descendants of Jacob, in the Last Days. It will be a sign and a wonder, and He said that it would happen. Therefore, it will.
So, to usurp the place of Israel, and to boast against Israel, like Chuck is doing here, is a sin. Paul rebukes Dr. Baldwin directly in Romans 11. And, I am appalled that Chuck would be so foolish as to directly speak against the words of Paul. He quotes Galatians on the one hand, but speaks against the words of Paul in the book of Romans.
And then… he quickly brings in politics to the pulpit and spends the rest of the sermon on a rant, proclaiming one antisemitic conspiracy theory after another. And, I am amazed that any pastor would do this, so often, from the pulpit. And, he does this constantly. Unfortunately, this is something that you should expect from someone who calls himself a ‘2nd Amendment Pastor’.
Yes, that’s right. He includes the US Constitution as a part of his theological foundation. And no, I am not engaging in hyperbole here. Go look for yourself:
I’m sorry, but there is no place in the Body of Christ for a pastor to advocate for a political agenda. Jesus said that His servants are not of this world, but Chuck wants Christians to BE of this world in direct rebellion against Jesus.
I hate to say it, but I must:
Until Chuck repents of these great sins, I must proclaim him a false brother and NOT a member of the Body of Christ.
Okay, let’s bring this to a close. I think that we have enough to draw important conclusions about Mr. Baldwin.
Rebellion is Satanism to God. If you refuse to obey God, you have placed yourself among the followers of the Prince of Darkness.
- Chuck started off right. He saw something wrong in what he believed and searched the scriptures to see where his error was.
- Unfortunately, his wounded pride guided him to an even worse error than the one that got him started on his journey into darkness. He became a Preterist and embraced Replacement Theology.
- Using stealth and deception, Chuck has poisoned his congregation.
- Instead, he should have been humble and patient – waiting for the Holy Spirit to teach. Unfortunately, he turned to commentaries from false teachers.
- Chuck has tossed out the Book of Revelation, so he stands condemned by Revelation 22:19. The seriousness of this spiritual crime is clearly eternal. The thought of being erased from the Book of Life should scare anyone.
- As a pastor, Chuck demonstrates all the hallmarks of a wolf. He abuses his congregation from the pulpit and lies about fellow Christians. He has forsaken humility for the tarnished glory of pride and self-justification.
- He is a liar. He lies about Dispensationalists. He lies about Israel. He twists the truth to serve the lies that he follows.
- He values the politics of this world over obedience to God. He proclaims a need for churches and Christians to make the US Constitution a part of their spiritual foundation.
- Chuck is an antisemite. He isn’t even ‘just’ an anti-Zionist. His hatred of the Jews is clear, and he has made common cause with wicked and evil neo-Nazis. And, in doing so, blasphemes the name of our Lord and Savior.
Please pray that Chuck would repent of his great wickedness and seek to undo the evil that he has done. If he does not repent, he faces an eternity of condemnation that I would wish on no one.
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