Strong Delusion – Reasons

Delusions are dangerous. They can wreck your life, poison your family and get you sent to the hospital. They kill. They injure. And, they claim the lives of countless numbers of people, every year. Hitler murdered tens of millions with a delusion. Stalin, Mao and Planned Parenthood have done the same.

Worse, we have delusions that threaten our eternal destiny. Some will earn us a lessened reward in heaven. Some… SOME delusions will send us to the Lake of Fire.

The question is… WHY?

Why are we so willing to entertain and adopt these illusions, and then… eventually …The Strong Delusion?

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It is rare when I hear a preacher say something that makes me want to jump up in the middle of a sermon and yell. And, I almost did that, last Sunday. I even had to get a grip on myself and pray for restraint, to keep from grabbing the guy after church and yelling at him.

What did he do?

He twisted the Bible.

Just a little.

They weren’t huge twists, and most people would not understand why I should be so upset over that sermon. The main idea was correct, and most people would have wondered if I had lost my mind.

(Which would NOT BE TRUE, since I know where it is. I think.)

Sure, he misrepresented what the Bible actually said, multiple times, but his main point was correct, so what was so bad?

Twisting the Bible, is NEVER good. EVER, especially when it is done from the pulpit. And, I still don’t know why he did it. If he shows up next Sunday, I intend to find out why he did it in as friendly a manner as I can manage.

This guy was a missionary to a country in Southeast Asia, having dedicated a significant portion of his life to sharing the gospel under difficult conditions. I know the kind of price that he had to have paid to that, but I do not understand why he was so willing to twist the Bible. And no, WHAT he twisted is not important.

It’s enough to know that he changed what the Bible said, to fit his own world view, a view that he wished to impose on his listeners. With all of his personal sacrifice, why did he do something like this?

I intend to ask him in a very friendly way, but I surmise that what he said came out of a book or some Bible class that he took some time ago. Or, he could have made it up himself. But, where it came from is unimportant. The WHAT is unimportant.

The WHY is what we are looking for.

WHY do men and women distort the words of the Bible?

I could look in the mirror for some of those reasons, since I’ve done my own share of Bible distorting in Forty-thing years as a Christian. In fact, I’m a little embarrassed over some of the things that I’ve gotten so enthusiastically wrong. Loudly, annoyingly, emphatically wrong. I should be glad that God didn’t squish me flat for being such an idiot.

Heresy

Oh, and since I tend to throw the word ‘heresy’ around – and since that’s what we are talking about – let’s take a detour and define it.

By definition, getting something wrong about the Bible is heresy. Maybe even something as small as comma placement. (Although, I doubt it.) Anyway, let’s look up the definition:

1. adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma

2. dissent or deviation from a dominant theory, opinion, or practice.

That’s a somewhat abridged definition from Webster’s Dictionary, and it’s awfully secular. But, the first part of the second definition is something that I’ve been for so long, I get uncomfortable when too many people agree with me. But, the context that we’re talking about here, is the Bible, the words of God. So, when we say ‘heresy’, we’re talking about something that is contrary to what the Bible actually says.

So, let’s talk about my definition of Biblical heresy:

Adherence to a religious opinion contrary to what the Bible actually says.

Why would someone do this?

FEAR – The Kosher Example

Well, fear is a big reason, and we can turn to Judaism as an example of how fear can cause them to distort the Bible.

One great example would be from Kashrut (pronounced cash-root) or Jewish dietary law. And, one of the biggest parts of those laws has to do with the mixing of milk and meat. Under orthodox observance, even if you thoroughly wash a spoon that has touched milk… if it touches meat, both the spoon and the meat instantly become non-Kosher, or forbidden to eat.

Where does this rule come from?

The second half of this verse:

The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother’s milk.

 – Exodus 23:19

And, the Jews seem to be deathly afraid of violating that rule. So much so, that they’ll distort their lives to make sure that they never break that rule.

Yes, this verse does not say that you cannot boil (seethe) a baby goat in cow’s milk. It just says that you are not allowed to boil a baby goat in the milk of that baby goat’s mother. But, the rabbis are afraid, so this means that you can’t have cheese on your hamburger – and no cream sauce with your chicken, either.

Wait.

Chickens have milk?

Don’t ask.

That’s heresy. Period. End of story. It’s not the kind of heresy that will get you sent to Hell. If you want two sets of dishes and forks, be my guest. You’re crazy, but you won’t go to Hell for it.

Damnable Heresies

Heresies that get you sent to Hell are ‘Damnable Heresies’. And, you can find a reference to THAT, here:

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

 – 2 Peter 2:1

That. THAT is a heresy that will get you sent to Hell – denying the Lord that bought us. And, Peter goes on in the rest of the chapter, identifying these false teachers.

You can find the chapter here:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Peter+2&version=KJV

That whole chapter speaks to some of the truly awful things that some pastors have been caught doing, without remorse. Those men and women have traded in their eternal life, for a bit of momentary fame. But, none of that really explains why people twist the Bible.

Yogurt And Lamb On Rice

Let’s get back to our fear, the Jewish one. And, let me add a Middle East story.

I once had lunch at an Arab restaurant with a Jewish friend, who was pretty secular. It was a touristy place, and they were offering something that looked cultural and traditional. It was lamb and rice with yogurt. After eating her meal, my friend asked the waiter how they made it.

In heavily accented English, the waiter proceeded to tell her that the lamb came from the restaurant owner’s flock of sheep, and that they milked the mother and made yogurt from the milk. Then they boiled the lamb in the yogurt of its mother. Even though my friend was largely secular, the look of horror on her face grew and grew as the waiter told the story. Eventually, the waiter realized that there was a problem and called for the manager.

The manager looked at my friend and said, “Jewish, right?”

She nodded.

“Look,” he said, “we get the lamb from up north, and the yogurt is from down south. There’s no way that the lamb was cooked in its mother’s milk.”

To this day, my friend will never, ever, EVER eat lamb with yogurt, ever again.But, according to the Bible, she was safe. But, she’ll never get over the story that the waiter told.

But, cheese on a hamburger?

Chicken in a cream sauce?

Separate refrigerators for milk and meat?

Separate silverware and dishes?

Have they lost their minds?

Yes.

But, they’ve lost their minds, because they are terrified of what might happen, if they accidentally went to a restaurant that actually boils a lamb in yogurt made from the milk of its mother, and served it on rice. And, they take this neurotic fear even further.

What would happen if someone just happened to buy milk in the grocery store that came from the mother of the cow that gave you such a delicious steak?

What would the chances be?

One in a million? A billion?

But, since the chance isn’t zero, they make all these extra rules, just in case.

THAT, my friends, is FEAR.

What’s another reason?

PRIDE And REBELLION

Pride is a big one, and I run into it all the time. And, it’s the biggest reason for why some denominations have female pastors. And, there’s a church just a couple blocks away from us, here in Tainan, that has a female pastor.

That is in direct rebellion against this verse:

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

 – 1 Timothy 2:12

Any church that has a female pastor is in direct rebellion against that verse. It’s not a damnable heresy, but it’s pretty bad. And, a church THAT disobedient, will have other problems, too. Stay away from a church with a female pastor.

But, why would a church disobey the Bible, like this?

Well, when I raise the issue, I always hear this refrain:

Well, she’s such a Godly woman, and look at how good her sermons are. And, what a great… (and on and on)

When I point out that it’s still disobedience, the conversation devolves into a character attack along the lines of… “Who are YOU to pass judgment on so-and-so!” And, that usually ends the conversation.

Why are there women who demand that they should be allowed to be pastor?

Pride.

Why do some men stick to the errors of their church, instead of admitting that they are wrong?

Pride.

Anglicans, Presbyterians, Roman Catholics, Lutherans (and others) all sprinkle instead of baptize. And, they KNOW that the word means immerse/dunk/dip-under-the-water. But, they refuse to acknowledge that they are wrong. Period. End of story.

That’s pride.

DESIRE

Then, there’s desire.

This one’s a little harder for me since there are things in the Bible that I do not wish to believe. That I wish were not true. I want more people to go to heaven, than just Christians. I don’t like the restrictions of ethics, honesty and morality. They’re so confining, and often inconvenient. But, God didn’t ask for our opinion.

Let me pick one particularly painful example that makes me cringe:

But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

 – Matthew 5:32

I hate to even repeat that verse, but it’s there. I can’t ignore it. I must accept it, even though I do not want to. I can even give some rationality behind it. But, I’m still stuck with it, and how painful it is.

My desire is to let any man with an awful wife, or any wife with an awful husband, to divorce and marry someone who isn’t so awful. But, I’m sorry. That’s not what God said.

I must commit myself to what God actually said, instead of inserting something else that I would have preferred Him to have said. And, I know of far too many women for which that verse is very, very painful. And, I’m so sorry – from the bottom of my heart.

The same goes for choosing to marry someone who is not a Christian. I suffered under that restriction for a very, very (painfully very) long time. THAT one saved me from a bad marriage, of THAT I am sure. But, it was so difficult.

Of course, I did not know that God was using my time of singleness to soften the edges and get rid of some of the ‘holier-than-thou’ ideas that I had. I’m a lot easier to live with now, than when I was 30+ years younger. Mrs. Little would have miserable being married to me all those years ago.

THE FIRST STEP – SUBMISSION

The question is…

…are you willing to take the first step towards love of the truth by submitting to what the Bible actually says, instead of what you want it to say?

If it’s hard to say ‘yes’, I understand. It IS hard. And, there’s a part of me that does not like having to submit to what the Bible says. And no, I’m not talking about interpretation here. We can disagree on that. What I’m talking about is submission.

Will you submit?

It’s hard, and it means sacrificing yourself. But, the alternative is worse. Actually, the alternative is so bad, that there isn’t an alternative.

I’ve said this before, but it bears repeating:

Life is short.

Eternity is long.

Choose well.

 

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Yup, more than just special, these links appear to be the most important of all. Seriously, start with these.

And yes, these are pretty serious.

Virginia Tables Bill Legalizing ‘Abortion’ as Mother Gives Birth

And now, the death machine moves into Virginia. Another state tables a law that allows a woman to murder her unborn child, up to… during… and (essentially) after she gives birth.

Yes, the death machine.

In Virginia.

I’m sorry, America needs to die. It needs to be broken up into pieces, with the most evil parts incinerated by the wrath of God. And yes, if this means the complete destruction of America, so be it. America has exported their ‘death machine’ all over the world.

May God judge the foul people in America who made this mass-murder possible, and called it good. May they be utterly destroyed, so that their evil cannot continue. But, there is something that I want more, but will not get.

More than their death and destruction, I want their repentance. I don’t take pleasure in the suffering and death of the wicked. God certainly doesn’t. God wants repentance, but I know that it’s not going to happen. So, it must be suffering and death.

Oh, and make no mistake, some of the evil people that are having abortions, are Christians. I’ve heard countless stories of supposedly ‘christian’ women who had abortions to hide their shame. So, they compounded their sin with murder.

The judgment of God is coming for America, and it is Just.

The Danger of Abortion-On-Demand – YouTube

Do you want to know one of the big reasons why America MUST BE DESTROYED?

This is probably the biggest.

Abortion is murder. And now, they are making it even MORE grotesque.

Is The Permian Bull Run Coming To An End? | OilPrice.com

For those watching what is going on with Shale Oil, it has already become clear that Shale Oil cannot last for long. The fracking frackers are lying to us, and it’s getting harder and harder for them to cover for their own lies.

And, the point of this, is that PEAK OIL is already HERE. You just don’t see it yet. But, you will. And, by that time, it will be far too late.

PEAK OIL is a civilization destroying event, since we chose not to create viable alternatives to oil. And, let me repeat that important word,’VIABLE’. Electric cars are not VIABLE. Hydrogen is not VIABLE. Natural Gas is MORE viable, but that still means that it’s not VIABLE.

Are you getting the picture?

Oh, and why aren’t they ‘not viable’?

Because we do not have the infrastructure to support these ‘alternatives’. And, even if we did, most of all that comes from coal. An electric car is really coal-powered. And, we will soon start running out of THAT.

Oh, and the power grid cannot support everyone having their own electric car.

So, learn to walk.

Opinion | Steve Jobs Never Wanted Us to Use Our iPhones Like This – The New York Times

This illustrates just how unable we are to see the future – and how unable the elites are, to see the future. When Steve Jobs introduced the first smartphone he did not believe that it would become what it is today. It wasn’t his vision. It wasn’t what he was expecting.

This is proof positive that the elites do not have a firm grasp of where the world is going. And, they cannot control it. They can try to direct it. They can try to take advantage of it. But, they have no idea of where it will go or be.

This is the thing that conspiracy theorist need to understand when they cook up their theories – assuming that they care about anything like the truth. Conspiracies are limited. Very limited. And, most of the conspiracy theories out there are complete garbage, because they are fueled by ridiculous paranoia.

But, only most.

The problem is that the ridiculous conspiracy theories are sheltering the real ones. And, those of you passing them around are helping to keep the real conspiracies from being exposed. To put it another way, your ridiculous theories are killing us.

Now, back to Steve Jobs and his iPhone.

Another part of how incredible this all is, is that it shows that technology is taking us places that we never expected. It’s allowing things that could not have dreamed of. And, it’s all a part of our worst nightmares.

The interesting thing is that God knows and knew. This is all a part of God’s plan.

Anyway, let me quote a few paragraphs of this article:

In 2007, Mr. Jobs took the stage at the Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco and introduced the world to the iPhone. If you watch the full speech, you’ll be surprised by how he imagined our relationship with this iconic invention, because this vision is so different from the way most of us use these devices now. In the remarks, after discussing the phone’s interface and hardware, he spends an extended amount of time demonstrating how the device leverages the touch screen before detailing the many ways Apple engineers improved the age-old process of making phone calls. “It’s the best iPod we’ve ever made,” Mr. Jobs exclaims at one point. “The killer app is making calls,” he later adds. Both lines spark thunderous applause. He doesn’t dedicate any significant time to discussing the phone’s internet connectivity features until more than 30 minutes into the address.

The presentation confirms that Mr. Jobs envisioned a simpler and more constrained iPhone experience than the one we actually have over a decade later. For example, he doesn’t focus much on apps. When the iPhone was first introduced there was no App Store, and this was by design. As Andy Grignon, an original member of the iPhone team, told me when I was researching this topic, Mr. Jobs didn’t trust third-party developers to offer the same level of aesthetically pleasing and stable experiences that Apple programmers could produce. He was convinced that the phone’s carefully designed native features were enough. It was “an iPod that made phone calls,” Mr. Grignon said to me.

Mr. Jobs seemed to understand the iPhone as something that would help us with a small number of activities — listening to music, placing calls, generating directions. He didn’t seek to radically change the rhythm of users’ daily lives. He simply wanted to take experiences we already found important and make them better.

And, the iPhone is what it is today, because USERS demanded it to be this way. Please understand that. It wasn’t by design… it was by USE.

Remember also that Steve Jobs is famous by demanding that pornography not be allowed on iTunes. He said:

“Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone.”

THAT is the kind of guy that Steve Jobs was. He had morals. He might not have been Christian, but he was willing to sacrifice profit for ethics and morality.

Now, here’s the last paragraph of this article:

Early in his 2007 keynote, Mr. Jobs said, “Today, Apple is going to reinvent the phone.” What he didn’t add, however, was the follow-up promise that “tomorrow, we’re going to reinvent your life.” The iPhone is a fantastic phone, but it was never meant to be the foundation for a new form of existence in which the digital increasingly encroaches on the analog. If you return this innovation to its original limited role, you’ll get more out of both your phone and your life.

I have refused to allow my smartphone to rule my life. The only thing that I use it for is reading books, and I only do that because I digitized all of them before leaving the US. I wanted to keep myself as light as possible, so that God could easily move me around to where He needed me.

That is literally why I have a smartphone, instead of a ‘normal’ and ‘dumb’ cell phone.

Oh, and it’s easier to carry my Bible around. I have always always carried my Bible with me, everywhere that I’ve gone – long before we even had cell phones.

The question is… what other device will pop up and change the way that we live. Remember that Satan and his minions can’t predict the future, which is why they will be trapped into doing what God wants them to do.

But, rest assured, we humans are so evil that someone, somewhere, will create something that everyone will lust after. And, we will use it so much in ten or twenty years, that we won’t want to live without it. In fact, it might be something that we won’t be ABLE to live without.

And, Satan’s Antichrist will use it to control the world.

I can only hope that you’ll be ready for this.

America’s Shameful War | Zero Hedge

There is a picture in this article, of a US soldier standing in the middle of a field of flowering opium poppies, the very same poppies that produce heroin. And, that picture encapsulates the reason why America and the world is suffering from an opioid epidemic.

Heroin is flooding in from Afghanistan. Ninety percent of the world’s heroin comes from Afghanistan, and the CIA is responsible for its distribution.

Do you need proof?

Ask yourself what the field that this soldier stands in… what it looks like from the air. Then, ask yourself how hard would it be to send planes in to spray those fields with herbicide.

The US controls Afghani air space. They can do this, if they want. But, they don’t do the spraying. Therefore, this must be what they want.

Is there ANY OTHER interpretation?

Someone can do something. It’s not hard to do. But, they don’t do it.

Am I missing something here?

This means that America is the biggest drug dealer in the world – of the worst drug ever produced by mankind. Heroin. America did this and is doing ths.

For those of you who are American, your tax dollars are making this happen. Our taxes did this. And, we sent our boys to do this.

Tell me again why God should spare His wrath from destroying America?

IMAGE: US SOLDIER IN A FIELD OF OPIUM FLOWERS

This is the specific picture. I’m looking for a larger version, or something like it.

 

I truly hope that you’ll be ready for this

A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.Proverbs 22:3

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42 thoughts on “Strong Delusion – Reasons”

  1. I’ve only begun to read this post, but already must comment on the meat/milk thing. I learned, decades ago in college in a course called Modern Judaism taught by a rabbi, that the origin of that prohibition and the meaning of the command was a horrendous pagan practice of worshiping a pagan god by boiling a baby goat alive in its own mother’s milk. Demon gods love things like that, just as they love to see human children burned alive. So this was explicitly prohibited. What God created as a means of life-giving nurture, a mother’s milk, was turned into an instrument of torture.

    • Hi DRG,

      Yeah, the rabbi was on the right track. However, I think a more accurate connection was one of relationship.

      For instance, you are not allowed to sacrifice the mother animal with its baby. You are not allowed to take both the eggs or hatchlings with the mother bird. You must not violate the special relationship between a mother and its offspring.

      And, the fact that the waiter thought that his story was really cool… was really repulsive.

      And, don’t get me started on some of the Chinese… wow. Horrendous does not begin to describe some of them.

      Great points, DRG!

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  2. Brother John, I was “shocked” by parts of your message. You appear to me to be full-blown salvation by adherence to the law. Present day Christians are saved by grace. We are not under the law sir. We are dead to the law. We are under Grace. I’m sorry you told the woman she couldn’t divorce a lousy husband and remarry. Divorce and remarriage is adultery (i.e. sin). Once we are believers in Jesus Christ, we are made perfect and holy (saved, sealed, sanctified, and glorified. We can’t lose that. It’s done. We can know we are saved. I’ve read where Puritans who spent their whole life trying to please God by bearing fruit were not sure of their salvation. What a tragedy. I know so many “born again” Christians who doubt they are saved. Have I bared enough fruit? I didn’t go to Church last Sunday to watch a football game. You and I sin every day. They are ALL forgiven. You have completely missed the reason for the Reformation (saved by grace thru faith; not salvation by good works). I’m just a layman but I understand grace. I’m attaching a link to one of hundreds of ministers who preach this truth. I hope you will consider the possibility of Paul’s message as being to the present day Church and quit holding hell over believer’s head to “clean up their act”. “Once Saved, Always Saved”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxmNTqonIDY&list=PLt4pkCXDppatkfjJEkrLnefwiaFM6c2Tn&index=25&t=1831s
    I say the above in love my brother in Christ. You have no idea the peace and security understanding grace can bring to sinful wicked people who deserve destruction but for God. Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
    Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast. 
    James message of “faith without works is dead” was written specifically to the Jews for the Tribulation Period. The above tape discusses this in detail sir. Love you brother.

    • Hi Glenn Bowman,

      I’m not sure where you get all that. All that I’m doing is pointing out sin.

      Is it okay to sleep around with as many different women as you like?

      You say no?

      Well, then you are a legalist. Shame on you for telling me that I cannot sleep any girl that catches my eye.

      That’s your argument, not mine. You’re just saying that I’m a little worse than you are. That’s all.

      And, I’m afraid that you are wrong about ‘once saved always saved’.

      Go here:

      https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=book+of+life&qs_version=KJV

      That’s the search term for ‘book of life’. You have to be in it, to get to heaven. But, there are sins that will get you erased from it.

      That’s the word of God, Glenn. Are you going to tell me that the Bible doesn’t say what it clearly says?

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

      • John, my brother in Christ, of course one shouldn’t sleep around. It’s SIN. Do you ever covet contrary to one of the Ten Commandments? If you say no, you are fooling yourself. God demands perfection of a believer. We are made perfect in the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary. ALL sins are forgiven, including yours and mine coveting. The Apostle Paul was elected by Jesus on the Road to Damascus to offer salvation to the Jews AND Gentiles in the Church Age.
        The Bible does say what it clearly says:
        God. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
        Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

        Don’t gloss over carnal Christians in the scriptures. Would it shock you that carnal Christians will be in heaven? Possibly no rewards but saved nevertheless. Just no reward.

        [EMPHASIS ADDED BY JL]

        1Co 3:8  Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 
        1Co 3:9  For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building. 
        1Co 3:10  According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 
        1Co 3:11  For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 
        1Co 3:12  Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 
        1Co 3:13  Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 
        1Co 3:14  If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 
        1Co 3:15  If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
         
        You don’t understand the Gospel of Grace. The tape I linked you too proved it scripturally. The Judaizers hated Paul’s Gospel of Grace the same way you do. Read Romans. Jesus fulfilled the law for believers “in the present day Church Age”. Where is no law, there are no transgressions.

        [EMPHASIS ADDED BY JL]

        Here’s another attempt by Dr. Gene Kim to open your eyes. You couldn’t possibly have the peace and joy that passes all understanding if you believe you will be judged by the law. The law kills.

        God bless Brother John

        • Hi Glenn Bowman,

          I put your main points in bold so that those who read them will understand what we are talking about.

          You said this:

          Don’t gloss over carnal Christians in the scriptures. Would it shock you that carnal Christians will be in heaven? Possibly no rewards but saved nevertheless. Just no reward.

          Sorry, but carnal Christians will NOT be in heaven.

          Did you read the parable of the talents? The unjust servant? Did you read the parable of the sheep and the goats? The parable of the sower? Did you read what Peter said about those who will be sent to Hell, who were ‘bought by Christ’?

          That’s 2 Peter 2. I quoted it.

          And, do NOT erase from the Bible the FACT that your name can be rubbed out of the Book of Life?

          If you clicked that link about the Book of Life, you would have seen this verse:

          And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

          – Revelation 22:19

          THAT is PROOF POSITIVE that your name can be taken out of the Book of Life.

          YOU. CAN. LOSE. YOUR. SALVATION.

          PERIOD.

          Do NOT intellectualize all of that away. I grew up in a church that did that (initially).

          Read James 2 about faith and works.

          https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2&version=KJV

          If you do not have works, you don’t have faith. Your works won’t save you, but if you don’t have works, you don’t have faith.

          What did Jesus say about us?

          By their fruits, ye shall know them. (Matthew 7)

          Your works show us who and what you are. They show YOU who and what you are. And, if you cannot see evidence of salvation in your life – and that evidence is works – then you might not be saved.

          But, look at this verse:

          Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

          – Matthew 7:21

          The bottom line is that your actions speak louder than your words. Your willingness to obey God will produce works of obedience.

          Furthermore, your willingness to rebel against the words of God, show that you are NOT of of God’s children.

          If you are NOT in rebellion against God, then all that I have said does not apply to you. And, I hope that this is the case. But, this idea that we have nothing to fear from rebellion against God… is wrong.

          It is heresy.

          We have a lot to fear, and that fear is for the ungodly part of ourselves that remains with us. Our Godly ‘new man’ does NOT need to fear. The old man does not respond to the love of God, but only the fear. The New Man knows nothing of fear and cannot fear God.

          Do you understand the difference?

          We must embrace the fear of God. We must. It is for our good that we fear God. That fear helps us keep the filth of this world away, so that the light of Christ can shine forth into a dark and dying world.

          I hope that helps to illustrate my point further, Glenn.

          Yours in Christ,

          John Little
          omegashock.com

          • Brother John,
            Thank you for taking your valuable time to respond to me. You study God’s Word a great deal. I’m a layman and at best an amateur theologian. You spend your impressive life now doing these discussions and I’m playing right into your wheelhouse.
            I have a completely different take sir on one’s salvation. I believe you treat the salvation of Jews in the OT/Tribulation with the salvation of Gentiles/Jews who come to belief in the Church Age You apparently know nothing of dispensationalism or reject it outright. Once I became aware of this it completely changed by understanding of the Bible. The Bible made so much more sense. I would urge you to consider the possibility and not be closed-minded.
            I don’t have time to make a lengthy debate. So let me defend “Once saved, always saved” quickly/briefly and your reference to being erased from the “Book of Life”. You outsourced your points and I will do the same. As you once so brilliantly stated in a video, “I’m a moron and I recognize it. That makes me smarter than most Christians”. I love that quote of yours and couldn’t agree more.
            “Can I Be Blotted from the Book of Life”? (John Piper): [DELETED BY JL]
            If you understood dispensations, you would know that the Book of James was written to Jews during the 7 Year Tribulation. The first sentence in the Book of James says: Jas 1:1  “James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the TWELVE TRIBES which are scattered abroad, greeting”. This is clearly to Jews. The last time I checked, I’m a gentile. That verse is not written to me or to you. I won’t be here for the Tribulation nor will any other believers in Jesus Christ from the Church Age. I know you don’t believe in a Rapture but I do. I remain open to debate about a Pre-Trib Rapture.

            Php 4:7  “And the PEACE of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus”. Alternately, you preach FEAR of “I’m going to scare the sin out of you”. The new man realizes we are one with Christ. This new creature cannot sin. Only the flesh can. We are sealed and can’t ever lose the Holy Spirit like it’s a light switch that God turns on and off. That’s clearly maintaining salvation by doing an adequate amount of “good works”. You should be Catholic. They have a long list of works with check boxes you can check off to get to heaven. If you fall short, they send you to purgatory and burn you a little longer.
            The understanding of dispensations changed me forever. Maybe it might change your understanding. I do “good works” out of LOVE of what Jesus did for me on Calvary and not out of necessity out of fear as you seem to be saying. The Bible clearly states there will be carnal Christians in Heaven sir. PERIOD.
            I strongly urge you to watch the following video. I can’t stand to watch a video that I strongly reject going into it so there is a good chance you won’t. I’m not closed minded about anything except the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ (Son of God/Trinity), for my sins. You sound so dogmatic on hotly sincerely debated issues. I admit I’m not infallible. No doubt I’m confused about my understand of certain things and so are you. Can you admit to that?
            Finally, I’m secure in my salvation because of Paul’s message of “grace thru faith” to the believers of the Church Age. Instead, you continue to labor as a Jew based on the Book of James. God planted me as a Son of God and He will reap me.
            I’m not questioning your salvation. But good works get you nothing toward “maintaining your salvation”. When I defend grace it’s because I realize what a wicked evil human being I am in the flesh and like Paul I am accused of coming across as condoning a license to sin. It is not. Well, I’m defending my salvation as a wicked human being in the flesh. I’m sinless and perfect in the spirit thanks to Jesus.
            Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth EXPLAINED Correctly! | with Pastor Rodney Beaulieu: [DELETED BY JL]
            Love ya Brother,
            Glenn Bowman

          • Hi Glenn Bowman,

            I deleted the links because I just didn’t have the time to review them, and I cannot allow links that I have not reviewed to be approved.

            If John Piper claims that you cannot be ‘blotted out of the Book of Life’, shame on him. The Bible is clear. There can be no arguing with this. It has been settled by the Bible itself. To claim otherwise, is a direct attack upon the Bible.

            When the Bible specifically says that you can be blotted out of the Book of Life, it doesn’t matter what you think about it. It’s the truth. None of what you have said changes that. Please be aware that you are rebelling against the specific words of God, when you make your claims.

            Second, Dispensationalism is heresy. Period.

            It’s not damnable heresy. It won’t get you sent to Hell. But, it’s an extremely serious error that HAS led some to damnable heresy.

            Furthermore, there are key elements of Dispensationalism that come straight from the Jesuits – specifically, the Pretribulation Rapture.

            I wrote this more than four years ago:

            http://www.ezekielsfire.com/section-one/a-theory-that-blinds/

            That is proof-positive that the pretrib rapture theory is a complete lie. And, it’s such an obvious lie, that I can hardly believe it when people tell me that they follow this foolishness – even though my favorite pastors do.

            Seriously, there isn’t a single verse in the Bible that mentions this. NOT ONE. Yet, people keep sticking it in. And, it’s putting people to sleep, and that makes this a dangerous lie.

            And no, I did not ‘outsource’ my points. I merely gave a link to scripture.

            The only thing that I can say for the pretribbers, is that they aren’t as bad as most post-tribbers. And, I wrote about THOSE, also. Pre-tribbers ADD to the Book of Revelation. Most of the Post-tribbers, delete chapter 20.

            And, Jesus spoke of BOTH CAMPS, when He said this:

            18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

            19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

            – Revelation 22:18-19

            You are adding, so you will suffer greatly, Glenn. And, you will only have yourself to blame – although, I would rescue you from this fate, if I could.

            Yours in Christ,

            John Little
            omegashock.com

        • Hey John,

          Thank you, sir, for not condemning me to Hell or calling me a Satanist as I normally hear. I certainly don’t consider you one. You are a man of high moral character it appears. My point is that that is not what gets one saved. There is one infallible Holy Spirit read by fallible imperfect moran human beings like you and me. Nobody in the flesh is perfect in their theology (not even the Pope). As I said before, I remain open to other points of view EXCEPT on who Jesus is and what he did. My theology keeps “maturing” constantly (I hope). I love to hear other points of view.

          I take great exception to your understanding of how salvation is achieved and maintained and I think it does a lot of damage to so many Christians who continually doubt they are truly saved. That’s TRAGIC. Perhaps you feel that way.

          My comments below will zero in on your theology in that area sir. I should not have outsourced as I did and I apologize for that. I’m basically lazy. So let me try and summarize.

          [DELETED FOR CLARITY – JL]

          (JL): ”If John Piper claims that you cannot be ‘blotted out of the Book of Life’, shame on him. The Bible is clear. There can be no arguing with this. It has been settled by the Bible itself. To claim otherwise is a direct attack upon the Bible”.
          (GB): You fail to understand there are TWO Books, the Book of Life that everyone’s name is written into who was born. And the LAMB’S Book of Life, which one is written into will be or can be blotted out of. The lost are blotted out of the Book of Life as though they were never born. Christianity 101. NEVER were they written into the Lamb’s Book of Life.

          [DELETED FOR CLARITY – JL]

          So Brother John, sorry, but ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED!!

          FINALLY, your passages are quoted out of context (Matt 7 for example), BEFORE there even was a Church. This is a major dispensational error as Jesus was preaching concerning the KINGDOM. The parables clearly reveal the context is the Kingdom; not the present Body of Christ. Brother John, PLEASE LEARN ABOUT DISPENSATION. It is why we are told to RIGHTLY divide scripture. 2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. It changed everything for me and possibly could for you. There are major dispensational distinctions you need to learn.
          I do this all in the spirit of “iron on iron” and I sincerely hope that is how you consider it also. I did not come on here to attack your website which I follow faithfully. I don’t condemn you to Hell for not believing in a Pre-Trib Rapture. Lots of true “born again” Christians don’t. As I originally said, I was just “shocked” at your ridged views on obedience to the law. The law is wrath. The law is death. Christians will NEVER be under that curse. Please learn the meaning of God’s grace. It will change your view of what the Bible is really saying I believe.

          LOVE YOU BROTHER JOHN!
          Brother in Christ, Glenn Bowman

          • Hi Glenn Bowman,

            I deleted the stuff that was less fundamental, to focus on that. People reading your comment will get lost in the details.

            FIRST, you are making claims that are not in the Bible. Nowhere does it say that you should not have fear. Nowhere. In fact, it specifically says that WE MUST FEAR GOD! In fact, Paul is very specific that he was not certain that he would make it, himself.

            You are adding to the Bible, Glenn. You must stop that.

            SECOND, when you say that there are two books of life. Sorry, but you are adding to the Bible again. There is only one book. It is a sin to add to the Bible, and you need to stop that.

            THIRD, dispensationalism is an invention by a false teacher. And, the pretrib theory is from the Jesuits. You are following a lie that has been inserted into the Bible, and it should be condemned everywhere.

            Show me one verse where the pretribulation rapture is described. One verse. Or, one chapter. Or one passage.

            Glenn, listen to me.

            Do you love God?

            Really?

            If you do, then you need to stop distorting His words. You need to stick to WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAYS IN THE BIBLE. If the Bible does not say something, you are not allowed to say it. Period. End of story.

            You are not sticking to what the Bible says, and it is a dangerous, dangerous place to be in. God is angry with that, so you must repent.

            Again, if the Bible does not say something, you are not allowed to say it. Period.

            I hope that we can at least come to an understanding in this, Glenn.

            Yours in Christ,

            John Little
            omegashock.com

          • Brother John,
            I’m disappointed in your response on “OSAS” and not having knowledge of 2 books (Book of Life) and (Lamb’s Book of Life). I asked a theologian friend of mine to review the exchange of our comments. This was his position on these matters.
            ANY person, no matter who they are, who is not even able to trust God concerning his new birth, which Scripture confirms is a permanent, unchangeable position in Christ, who has been redeemed without a cause by God’s grace, who fails to even understand the very NATURE of Christ’s redemptive work on behalf of those for whom He died, is one who does not have ears to hear. This person who is disturbing you can in no way justify his position of “eternal unsecurity” without lying against the clear and straightforward truth given us in 2 Timothy 2:13, which is but one of many confirming this most precious truth”.

            Pastor/Teacher Steven A Sewell ThM

            John, I hope you will look into some more as I also will do.

            Your brother if Christ,
            Glenn Bowman

          • Oh great. A THEOLOGIAN had SPOKEN! (ta dum!)

            Should I pull out another theologian and play this one against that one?

            And, you are ‘disappointed’ in my response? Stop playing that game. It’s insulting. Please stick to fact. I am also disappointed in the fact that you refuse to see what the Bible actually says. You have dared to claim that there are TWO books. This is mentioned NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE! Yet, you claim it as truth and not supposition. This is fraudulent.

            So, stop that.

            Paul said this:

            But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

            – 1 Corinthians 9:27

            But, you will twist that, just as ‘Theologian Steve’ does.

            I find it ironic that you quote 2 Tim 2:13. The previous verse says this:

            12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

            Glenn, the Bible is against you on this. Are you reading it? I do. Every day. All year. All the way through in a year. Every year.

            Do that. And stop listening to theologians who went to a semitary.

            Yours in Christ,

            John Little
            omegashock.com

          • Brother John,
            Nothing personal on my part. Hope you feel the same way. I very much enjoy your website and comments. I remain “open minded” on ALL theological issues I believe that have nothing to do with one’s salvation. I’m dogmatic only on the basic tenets of Christianity. What Jesus was “really born” etc is for interesting discussions as an example.
            See you in Heaven. Maranatha Lord Jesus.
            Brother Glenn Bowman

  3. John Little says There’s a part of me that does not like to submit to what the Bible says. It’s hard but the alternative is worse. Actually it is so bad, there isn’t an alternative
    Yes, the alternatives are submit to a God you don’t agree with or burn forever in his hell. If that is how you believe, no wonder you are depressed. I don’t believe God expects beings He is renewing to rule with Him to act on this pain vs. pleasure principle which appeals to the lower nature. The Bible isn’t as black and white, one way to interpret as you think. Rather, where we have a problem we can take it to Him personally for insight and understanding. We are renewing our minds through the Word to find His perfect and acceptable will. It is a partnership.

  4. John,

    I see you seem to take scripture very literal or maybe I am reading you wrong. The comment on female pastors/preachers. I think you used Timothy for this, but wasn’t there very prominent women in position in biblical history? I don’t believe the king James version was used much back then. Wasn’t there a judge named Deborah of high position. I believe Paul was getting at here was about studying one approved and being learned. Not just a man or a woman thing and whether women can lead or teach. Just think, Paul/Saul who had studied under the very best and was considered very weighty in knowledge still needed to spend time in the desert for quite sometime being taught by the Holy Spirit the truth with understanding to be the teacher God could use for the message of the gospel and all the rest. I’m curious, Who have been and are your teacher’s to give such insight on the understanding of the Word of God, the Bible and it’s meaning and understanding. I do know sometimes it is really hard to try to communicate in writing sometimes as we lose the flavor of the discussion when it is not done mouth to mouth. I know for me correction can be hard do to my own hubris and pride. Rather I want to try and understand and that comes with experience/time grace love and concern for one another. A bruised reed is so delicate to bring wellness and healing. Hope!!

    • Hi Mark,

      Sorry brother, but I’m afraid that you don’t get to use Deborah for this one. She was NOT in responsibility over ANYONE. All that she was, was someone that could communicate the words of God.

      We don’t get permission to elevate women to positions of responsibility in the church with that example.

      Second, nowhere in the Bible do we have women in authority in the church or in the temple. Ever. Anywhere. And, the Bible is very specific about who can be in authority.

      I understand the desire to place Godly women in positions that they seem to deserve. I have had a lot of Godly women in my Christian life. They deserve tremendous respect, but we cannot violate the Bible.

      And, it would be a sin to ‘downgrade’ Paul. He is a direct Apostle of God. If you get rid of Paul, then you need to get rid of the whole Bible. There’s no middle ground here.

      I hope that helps, Mark. I truly wish that I could agree with you.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  5. Hi John…. this verse where Jesus spoke on the cross to the thieve….. see the comment below….. do you think the comma is in the right place? I copy and paste the next…..
    Answer: It is common knowledge that punctuation, including commas, was introduced into the biblical manuscripts centuries after the books were completed. Therefore, commas are not authoritative.

    However, the placement of commas can affect our understanding of a text. For example, in Luke 23, one of the thieves crucified next to Jesus says, “‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ Jesus answered him, ‘I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise’” (verses 42-43). Commas help us keep the original phrasing intact. Was Jesus saying, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me . . .” (meaning that “today” is when the thief would be in paradise)? Or was He saying, “I tell you the truth today, you will be with me . . .” (meaning that “today” is when Jesus was speaking”)?

    First, we note that every major Bible translation inserts the comma before the word today. Thus, the KJV, NKJV, NASB, NIV, ESV, and RSV all agree that Jesus was speaking of the time that the thief would enter paradise. The thief would be in paradise with Jesus on that very same day.

    Also, Jesus prefaced His response with the phrase, “I tell you the truth” (“Verily I say unto thee” in the KJV). Many scholars have noticed that Jesus uses this as a prefix phrase when He is about to say something that should be listened to with care. Seventy-six times in the New Testament, Jesus uses the phrase. Interestingly, no one but Jesus ever says it. When the Lord says “I tell you the truth,” He is affirming that what He is about to say is worthy of special attention. It was Jesus’ way of saying, “Listen up! What I’m about to say is very important and should be listened to carefully.” We’re too used to hearing the phrase to appreciate the astonishing authority it expresses and the often solemn nature of the announcement that follows. In every one of the 76 times Christ uses this introductory phrase, He simply says it and then makes a startling statement.
    John please give me your comment on this one…. as I said I don,t believe the comma was placed right. …

    • Hi Marietjie,

      I’m not sure that there’s a problem with the comma. The original Greek seems to use them. If you wish to look at the original, with interlinear English, go here:

      https://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/23.htm

      Punctuation was being used long before the time of Christ, so the writer of Luke would have used them. And, while the comma MIGHT change the meaning a bit, I’m not willing to make the change, unless someone could show me the original Greek text.

      Having said that, there’s nowhere in the Bible where Jesus says, “Verily I say unto thee today,”

      And, it’s not something that is worth arguing over. The best thing to do is accept it as it is.

      I hope that helps, Marietjie.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  6. WOW!! you finally got to write
    something that wasn’t all fear mongery, gloomy doomy. Well, not as, anyway. Did I almost detect humor?? Imgur won’t load, so I miss out on your humor there. I wonder if your system is starting to clean out from frequenting that DIN OF SIN, that HOUSE OF ILL REPUKE from the lure of QUARTER POUNDERS WITH CHEESE!! If the Taiwanese knew how that place poisons AMERICANS they would burn them all to the ground. Carcinogens aplenty are in that stuff they call food, Americans are so special we get a bunch that others refuse!! If Mrs Little can keep you away from that place, you might break out with health!

  7. What I thought was light and breezy, drums up such a difference of opinion. Once saved always saved seems such a slippery slope! Just because willful disobedience to the law is going to have serious consequences, such as quenching the spirit, and deceiving yourself, once saved always can never be
    license to sin. Being washed by the blood of JESUS, me being a slow learner and all, once conviction of a new sin pops up it cannot be written off. If we continue in this sin the consequences work on our consciences for our good, but continuous disobedience to the spirit within brings dire consequences. What happens if I were a hitman and commit murder for a living, just because I get conviction and salvation, would I get to go back to my former profession because I have been saved?? Prostitution? Extortion? We may not be under the old laws of sacrifice, does that include the TEN COMMANDMENTS? The USA was founded and used Leviticus law for crime and punishment. We can go through our lives serving GOD and being upright, how can we justify taking the MARK? We cannot. Foolish virgins had no oil in their lamps, were they saved, did they forget about HELL? JESUS CHRIST knowing he was talking to everybody reminded them 3 times about HELL, MARK 9:44-49. Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. So being once saved, always saved, JESUS wasn’t warning EVERYBODY!!
    We are told DO NOT BE DECEIVED”!! If we are once saved always saved, how secure can this be if the mark of the BEAST lies ahead.

    OK JOHN, tell me how I did.

    • Hi Mangledman,

      Well said brother. But, let me add a few of my own words.

      I think that the ‘once saved always saved’ tradition comes out of hyper-calvinism. And, there’s a lot of truth to what the hyper-Calvinists preach. The problem is that they apply it in the wrong way.

      Yes, we were chosen from before the foundation of the world.

      BUT, NO WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS!!!

      I am convinced that the concept of Predestination was given to us, to give us assurance that God will not let us go – that we don’t need to worry about anything, except sinning against Him.

      As I tell many people…

      …I live today as if I have complete free will, but I look at the future as if I do not have any.

      And frankly, if there IS such a thing as free will, I freely give it up. I don’t want it. I prefer that any ‘free will’ that I have, be placed in the hands of God.

      Remember this verse:

      But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

      – Revelation 10:7

      I believe that the truth of God’s control of His creation will be revealed, when that moment arrives. Predestination is a part of the ‘Mystery of God’. And, I look forward to understanding that.

      Oh, and if there is a place in the Bible that I can point to, where the rapture occurs… I believe that that’s it. When the Seventh Angel sounds his trumpet, and the mystery of God is finished, complete.

      Excellent points, MM. We MUST fear sin, or perish.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  8. Now YOU did it!! I accidentally bumped the shock cast and it started playing, so since I was busy scrolling down, I let it keep playing, and when I clicked BONDO’S site my wife says HEYYYY, I WANNA HEAR THAT!! IT WAS LIKE HER VERY FIRST QP WITH CHEESE!! ROFL!! So I checked the comments at BONDO’S and she listened to all of it until you lost her at PEAK OIL! I don’t do videos very much, especially if I can read the info. I told her I had already covered everything she was going to hear TWICE, so I turned it back on and busied myself. Well, FRIDAY’S coming, so I told her I haven’t missed this, and had for a long time been anticipating Friday for a long time. I have all week to get her ready for Friday, and can slip in a few older shock cast on her through the week!! (to be continued).

  9. Hi John,
    excellent article! Thank you!
    In case you missed it, just saw something which I have not taken into account before.
    SOs just produced a movie about our chances to know in advance about the micronova. Could be days, weeks, even months. But that’s not my point today:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auGj_FoZRzI
    So far, all animations by the SOs (which I saw) were backed by physics. They definitely more “compute” than “imagine”. So, stop the video at 7:48 time. Am I just seeing “The Sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair”?
    The next words are “…the WHOLE moon turned blood red”.And I have a guess why: all the matter ejected from the Sun during micronova event will gradually cool down, glowing yellow, orange, red, dark red. The Moon will be reflecting orange/red light coming from all directions. It will be WHOLE red regardless of the Moon phase…
    And, to finish, it is THIS moment in Revelation 6, when “…everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains.” Not during famine, war, pestilence and economic collapse (four riders) coming before. Just in this very moment.
    I could be wrong, of course, but I wanted to share this, seeing “scientists” “accidentally” producing an image looking like taken from Rev 6…
    Yours in Christ
    Chris

    • Yeah. I saw that one, too. In fact, last night, and I thought the same thoughts. I’m just not sure how far to go with this. I’ll need to be doing some thinking. But, since you mentioned this… I will give it another listen. Thanks, Chris, for these excellent points. – JL

  10. John: I am very disappointed to see that you believe that a saved, born-again believer in Jesus Christ can somehow lose their salvation AFTER they have been saved by Almighty God. — John, you can rant on and on if like; but, the bottom line is this: If you, John, truly DO believe that a person who is saved and born-again by faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ can somehow then LOSE their salvation for whatever reason, then, you, John, are saying that the shed Blood, the death, and the Resurrection of Jesus Christ is not enough to pay for all of the sins of a person; indeed, you, John, are saying that a person needs to continue to “do their part” to KEEP themselves saved. — John, the truth of the matter is that Almighty God knows how to chasten His saved, born-again children who stray away from Him; but, they are STILL His children BECAUSE He sees them as justified and righteous in His sight, because He sees them as being IN JESUS CHRIST. And John, one more thing, because we all still sin every day, EVEN as born-again believers, then, John, if you DO believe that you can somehow LOSE your salvation, then, please tell me, “How do YOU know that you are saved right now?” I will be interested to see how that you answer this question of mine.

    • Hi Steve L.,

      I’m afraid that I must submit to the words of God, instead of the logic of others.

      Again, the Bible clearly and specifically says this:

      He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

      – Revelation 3:5

      And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

      – Revelation 22:19

      Those are the words of Jesus. Our Lord and Savior. Yet, you rebel against those words. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft (1 Samuel 15:23).

      The Bible is full of references of those who are cast away. Just look at this ‘word search’ for ‘blot’:

      https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=blot&qs_version=KJV

      That is full of references of those who are blotted out of the Book of Life.

      Steve, you are in rebellion. You need to stop that.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  11. Once but saved, always saved carries with it a mystery. Yes, we know we are saved, under his wings, in his hand, and will never be forsaken. Are we really saved, or are we deceived? Just because we are saved, do we not still have FREEWILL? If we claim the LOVE of GOD, but have no love for our fellow man, what kind of love is that. We are told not to quench the spirit, to be light and salt. “I am the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIGHT!! Can we turn from or reject these Truths, if so, there will be consequences, agreed? Serious question: If our name can be blotted out of the LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE, what does this say about once saved always saved?? Free will, can be our undoing! If at any time after salvation I reject the path and decide to have other gods before HIM, is this not a rejection of HIM? If we are warned to NEVER take the mark, why would HE even bother If we cannot ever be blotted out. Blotted out means we made it in the BOOK, but somewhere we CHOSE not be to obedient to the TRUTH we knew, and rejected our LORD, therefore HE will reject us! There are preachers saying; “Our salvation is complete taking the MARK will have no consequence”. No one can pluck us from his hand! Free will still allows us to reject our SALVATION after we receive it.

    • Hi Mangledman,

      Yup. You’ve hit upon the mystery.

      I have a good friend, who was… in every way that I could discern …the truest of Christians. He was a missionary. He was firm in his faith. Then, he temporarily left the mission field to go back to seminary.

      Then, one day, I heard that he had become an Atheist, while he was in the US.

      Was he written in the Lamb’s Book of Life?

      Absolutely.

      Is he still there?

      No.

      Can God bring him back?

      Yes, but that is God’s decision.

      How much ‘free will’ is involved is hard to say. If we have free will, we don’t have very much. I certainly do not have free will when it comes to vanilla ice cream. And, it doesn’t matter, anyway. (Except for the ice cream.)

      And, those preachers who claim that taking the MARK won’t get you sent to Hell?

      I know who you are talking about. He still stands by that claim. He will suffer for eternity for that. And, I can’t believe that he said it. How sick.

      All that I can truly say, is what the Bible actually says. That is where my safety lies, and that is where I will stand. I fear to stand anywhere else.

      Well said, MM. Keep up the good work, brother!

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little
      omegashock.com

  12. My hometown area, decades ago (because now it is ubiquitous on the internet) had a notorious porn shop, around which the local hookers would congregate, because it was good hunting grounds for customers. And, it was owned by one of those Baptist “I can’t possibly lose my salvation no matter what I do” guys. Who had a live-in girlfriend. Whom I spoke to, briefly, at another place (newspaper) where we both worked at the time. She said his attitude was, “it’s a business. I just sell people what they want.”

    I don’t quite understand why this (eternal security) is a debated point, for anyone with clear vision. God gives us free will. I interpret that to mean not only can we refuse His offer of expensively-bought redemption, but also the freedom to be an utter fool and throw it away. If belief were enough, the devil and his angels would be saved. They know very well who Christ is, probably better than we do, and they have probably known this for countless thousands of years. They saw what life was like under His perfect rule, and yet still chose to rebel. A third of them, by some interpretations, though I question whether that percentage is meant to be literal or poetic. God even gave His angels free will. He let them rebel. They lost their heavenly benefits forever.

    2 Peter 2 makes it pretty clear: “18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who [i]have actually escaped from those who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of [j]corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into [k]bondage. 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.” ”

    I haven’t seen that verse come up yet in this discussion. But it is hard to misinterpret, you’d need to really, really twist it not to see plainly what it is talking about; it is in a passage about false teachers and false doctrine. The above clearly says it targets those who have escaped living in error; by appealing to fleshly lust, by promising “liberty” – while the reality of the matter is they are put back into bondage, being once again overcome and enslaved by sin. It says, clearly, that not only is a person who escapes the pollution of this world through knowledge of Jesus Christ (and I bet the word translated as knowledge there is the intimate kind) lost, but their situation is the worse for having KNOWN this cleansing relationship with Christ and then abandoning it. I would agree that no one can take your salvation from you. But you can be stupid, or evil, and throw it away. And you can be really evil, by teaching this to other weak Christians so that they will stumble and fall into it as well. Which is why the bible is clear that teachers of false doctrine fare worse than their congregations, because they of all people should – and probably do – know better. But the carnal christian loves to hear that they really don’t have to work that hard or take it seriously. And they will be glad to tithe and support megachurches and provide multimillion dollar salaries to the spewers of such poison.

    In Matt 18, Jesus was speaking to His disciples, who had come to him with questions. In v 8 He says,”8 “If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. ” Note – He was talking to His disciples. Not OT people who had nothing to follow but the Law. HIS DISCIPLES. And He specifically said, ‘everlasting fire’. Not eventual annihilation. Not purgatory. Not a second chance on earth during the millennium, as some teach even today, claiming they are just taking the bible literally. If sin, after you already know Jesus, is so bad you should take such drastic measures to avoid it, don’t you think Jesus put it that way for a reason? And He even spelled out the reason – it will land you in everlasting fire.

    No this does not make me doubt His goodness or my own salvation. My approach is that I take prayer time every single day, sometimes more than once, to take an honest look at my walk and ask God if I did anything that needs to be repented of. And if I did, to confess and repent and ask the Holy Spirit to help me do better tomorrow. No matter how many times I fall flat on my face. I have a sometimes explosive temper, and have prayed for patience for years. YEARS. I kept falling on my face. But I would always get up and try again. Finally, just a few days ago, I felt the Lord bringing to mind the statement that whatever I have done to the least of these, I have done to Him. I pictured myself yelling at Him, and it was rather sobering. I was horrified. Then I was further horrified at the next realization, which was that I can’t damage God, but I sure can hurt and damage mere mortals. So why was that not enough to make me stop? But the (blasphemy? outrageous misbehavior?) of yelling at Jesus shocked me enough that it has had profound effect, and I feel I have really turned a corner here. The point being, I prove the genuineness of my salvation and that I am indeed His child by the fact that even when I sin, I do not accept it. I do not excuse it. I work and work and work on overcoming it. I don’t know why it took years to get to this point. Perhaps God wanted to test my sincerity or perseverance. Well, I passed. I never gave up. And I never compromised or rationalized away the standards of behavior God expects of us. Or tried to teach anyone else that they can ignore those standards without consequence. Somewhere in the NT it talks about fits of anger, I don’t remember exactly where, but I never doubted that it was something to be avoided and repented of. I never tried to scrutinize and twist that verse so that I could ignore this flaw in myself. There is another verse somewhere that says we who have this hope, of eventually being with God in heaven, will purify ourselves. I take that to mean that after accepting the big cleansing job Jesus did on the cross, our responsibility is the daily maintenance. Pray and confess and repent daily, for any area we have fallen short, and work with all diligence to do better. No, God does not expect us to be perfect. But that is a far cry from saying our behavior does not matter at all.

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  14. John,
    Is your ministry for the christian messiah and ashkenazi hebrew god dying out? I have actually enjoyed the articles to sharpen my “know your enemy” skill sets. I must say, the lies are so potent, so powerful, so persuasive and so multilayered, that very few will break out of these cobb webs to see the truth. You may believe that what you hold dear to and teach is truth, or maybe you are a false prophet and know what you are doing, but the lie is big as explained in 2 Thessalonians 2 and i am very sad about the masses who will be lost for not having a love for the truth. Truly, in the IVRYM Messiahs own words, “The Truth Is What Sets A Person Free”. And christianity is such a deadly, potent and persuasive counterfeit to the Truth.

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