Beast Rider – Part Five

Today, we bring this discussion to a close. Hopefully, I will have laid out the pieces of the puzzle in such a way that you can decide for yourself who the Beast Rider is – and, by process of elimination, who The Beast is.

(Click HERE for Part 4)

Yesterday, we talked about her relationship with The Beast and the richness of her apparel, and the fact that she holds in her hand a golden cup, full of abomination.

Today, we talk about the names on her forehead, the fact that she is a city, and that all who are a part of her are commanded by God to leave her.


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Beast Rider – Part Five

We are trying to figure out which of the three main theories fit this Great Whore that rides The Beast:

  • The Roman Catholic Church
  • The United States of America
  • Mecca – in Saudi Arabia

The Meccan theory isn’t looking good at this point. Yesterday, the Roman Catholic Church pulled ahead of the US, so we’ll see who passes the finish line as winner of the dubious prize of Great Whore.

Of course, those that are not a part of the Great Whore are obviously a part of The Beast – which would actually be worse.

Here are the final scriptures that deal with the Great Whore:

And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.Revelation 17:5-6

And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.Revelation 17:9

And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.Revelation 17:15-16

And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.Revelation 17:18

Chapter 18 deals specifically with the Great Whore. But, I won’t include all of that here. All of it is important to read, but here are the most important verses:

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.Revelation 18:4

And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:Revelation 18:11

And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!Revelation 18: 16-18

And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.Revelation 18:21

And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.Revelation 18:24

Then there is this verse in Chapter 19:

For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.Revelation 19:2

There is a fantastic celebration over the destruction of this city in Chapter 19.

So the question is this:

Which of the three theories fits best with what we see here?

Here are the attributes:

  • Mystery and Babylon the Great
  • Mother of Harlots
  • She sits on peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues
  • The Ten Horns hate her
  • She is a Great City
  • She reigns over the kings of the Earth
  • God’s people are in her
  • The merchants of the Earth mourn over her destruction
  • She has murdered God’s people, and she is drunk with their blood
  • Her death is so wonderful, that heaven rejoices at it.

Okay, so let’s try to put all this together.

Like the previous days, we’ll start with the traditional nominee, the Roman Catholic Church.

The Roman Catholic Church

The Roman Catholic Church fits all of these attributes, and she fits them extremely well. She embodies the mysteries of the Babylonian occult and has incorporated them into her ceremonies. She has also preserved them in her archives and used them to their fullest extent.

She has harlot daughters. Take a good, hard look at the Protestant churches, and you’ll find that they are very much like their mother. And, we see the Harlot Daughters being drawn back to their mother church.

By the way, Baptists are NOT Protestants!

She is hated by the Kings of the Earth, even though they deal with her.

She is also a Great City. This city has been around for a very, VERY long time. And, there are few cities that are more impressive than Rome.

And, when God calls His people out of her, I don’t believe that this is command to leave a geographical location, although I admit that this COULD be what God is doing.

The merchants of the Earth certainly would mourn over her destruction.

And, if there is one thing that you can say about the Roman Catholic Church is that she has murdered God’s people. No one – and I mean NO ONE – has murdered more of God’s people than the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church is the greatest murderer of God’s people that the world has EVER known.

Furthermore, she is also one of the great corrupters of God’s church, sending her secret emissaries in to change seminaries and destroy pastors and churches. Her Jesuits have crept into many, many places and defiled many teachings.

My own studies in this area have uncovered a mountain of crime and villainy that is breathtaking. As I have said before, and will continue to say, the Roman Catholic Church is the most vile organization on Earth. It is hard to think of anything more hypocritical and more evil than she is.

So, the question that you need to ask yourself:

Is she the Great Whore? Or, is she The Beast?

But, let’s move on to our next contestant.

The United States of America

Most of you don’t realize that Babylonian Mysticism is woven throughout America’s beginnings. It’s on the Great Seal of the United States. It’s in the layout of Washington D.C., and her founders were all acolytes of the deepest mysteries of Babylonianism.

Steve Quayle has even brought out the origins of the name America as mystical and of an occult nature.

But, can we say that she is the Mother of Harlots?

That is one of many attributes to the Great Whore that trouble me, when I try to apply this to the US of A.

I can understand how her culture has gained power with the people of the world, and that she sits astride Seven Mountains – i.e., seven continents.

I can see how she reigns over the kings of the Earth. In fact, for a world system to be created, everyone has acknowledged that America must be destroyed. America CANNOT exist as a great power, if a world system is to rise to take over the world.

I can also see that God’s people are in America and that no one has corrupted the world more than America has.

I can see how the merchants of the world would mourn at her destruction.

But… and I’m having trouble here …how has she murdered the people of God?

Yes, I’m sure that a close look at America will reveal the unjustified killing of many of God’s people, but when you compare the US to the Vatican… well …there’s no comparison.

Add to this the question of who the Harlot daughters of America are… and, well …you have something of a conundrum.

Also, we have something of a problem with the idea of America being a city. Of course, we could claim this to be New York City. And, much blame could be laid at the feet of New York City. But, if you focus everything on New York City, it reduces even further the blame that you can attribute to her.

For instance, it is Los Angeles that is the center of the World’s pornography and movie business.

And, let me add that America and New York are very, VERY young. And, their power and corruption are younger still.

With such a short time period to corrupt the world, would heaven be involved in such rejoicing as is described in chapter 19?

I mean, the Great Whore is singled out for special attention.

The world power of the United States dates back maybe a hundred years – if that. And, throughout all this time, America has been involved in spreading the Gospel.

Is America corrupting the Gospel as well?

Yes. But, not like the Roman Catholic Church.

To my own mind, I would have to consider America to be in second place, behind the Roman Catholic Church, to be The Great Whore.

But, there is one way that America could be The Great Whore:

If the Roman Catholic Church was a part of The Beast.

THAT would certainly be how America could be the Great Whore.

Mecca – in Saudi Arabia

Now, Mecca does shine a bit in the area of murdering God’s people. They have certainly done a lot of it over the past one thousand, four hundred years. But, the Muslims haven’t murdered as many Christians as the Catholics have.

Furthermore, I’m not sure that we can call her the Mother of Harlots or that the merchants of the world would mourn so much over her destruction.

Yes, I understand how some would see how she fits with these descriptions. But, in my spirit, I just cannot see how they fit that well.

To make Mecca and Islam fit in with the Great Whore, you would need to get out your hammer and bang on the pieces – to wedge them in.

Although, I will say that Mecca and Islam have been around for far longer than America, and one could claim that they have a far greater claim to being the Great Whore.

But, I still see Mecca as being in third place. Things will need to change drastically for her to reach a place where I would change my opinion about this.

Of course, drastic change IS coming, so anything is possible.


In my opinion… and yes, it is only my opinion …The Roman Catholic Church still holds the pride of place in this race. She still seems to fit the role of Great Whore better than any other.

But, there is one caveat, here:

She is the Great Whore, only if she is not the Beast – or a part of the Beast.

Our ancient brethren, for more than a thousand years, have called her The Beast, and I value THEIR opinion greatly.

So, if you claim that the Roman Catholic Church is a part of The Beast… then:

America is The Great Whore.

That’s an interesting thought, but… I’m not sure that this works. But, if you accept this as true… then, well …you have a problem.


Because God has COMMANDED His people to leave Her. It is NOT a suggestion. So, you had better get out.


And, for Mecca and Islam, I can only say that those voting for them to be The Great Whore… well …nice try. But, it just doesn’t work. Mecca and Islam do not have holy beginnings, and are just like the many religious cults that were successful.

I hope that this was helpful to you. I pray that the Holy Spirit directs your thoughts on this. This issue is one of the more difficult to address.

However, I believe that the coming days, weeks, months and years will make it clear to us who the Great Whore is, and who is The Beast.

I truly hope that you’ll be ready for this
(That’s a link. There’s not much time left.)

A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.Proverbs 22:3


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58 thoughts on “Beast Rider – Part Five”

  1. Hi John, A biblically sound conclusion: Babylon = Roman Catholic Church. But who are her daughters? Can we include Protestants and other denominations that are as lawless as Catholics? Wild and wooly Pentecostals? They are a law unto themselves. The self-approved Mormon apostles and prophets? War-mongering Muslims that conquered and almost eliminated the independent Coptic Sabbath keeping communities in Africa with Rome’s support and blessing? Etc, etc. Shalom mike.molyneaux (a)

  2. John, you’re not the first and you wont be the last to speak as you do about the Roman Catholic Church. The Church is made up of God’s people. People sin. That has been the way it is forever and is why God gave us Jesus. His plan for our salvation. Again, I ask you, of what religion are you?

    I have been reading your shock letters for several months. Not sure now how I came across your site, but I too feel the America we know will undergo difficult times in the near future. That is likely why I allowed your interesting ideas to come to my daily mail. I’ll give you this, your last series of letters on the Book of Revelations has truly been a shock for me. I was raised in a Protestant Church. I drifted away for much of my young adult life. I was introduced to Catholicism 4 years ago. I was baptized and accepted into the Church at age of 50. I thank God today for my blessings and for the Catholic Church. You have disturbed me. I want to know your religion. Sincerely, Mark Scales

    • Hi Mark Scales,

      You want to know my religion?


      If you want to know the church that I attend currently, it is a Baptist church. But, that should not matter to you.

      Yes, every religion has its ‘bad eggs’, but a true religion would completely disavow those ‘bad eggs’. The Roman Catholic Church has not done so.

      Furthermore, the sacraments, ordinances and teachings of the Catholic Church are NOT Biblical. They make claims that are not in the Bible. They pray to dead people, and the Bible does NOT tell us to do this.

      I could go on and on.

      Mark, it is the commandment of God that you leave this church. Will you obey?

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  3. Hey John,

    I had a thought to mention to your commentary on this subject. If we are commanded to leave, isn’t that also metaphorical as well as literal? In other words, we can “come out of her” not necessarily by physically leaving the location but by remaining in Christ and not being ‘of the world’ and remaining a shining example to others who are lost and caught up in the secular and worldly aspects of America. Do you believe this is absolutely literal? Thank you for your wonderful insight and God bless you.

    • Hi Lisa D’Alia,

      It’s hard to say.

      If America is The Great Whore, then the safest thing to do is physically leave. Remember that this isn’t just an issue of spirituality. It’s also about physical safety.

      That is, unless you wish to suffer plagues and physical destruction.

      Thank you, Lisa.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  4. Thank you for your insight into this question.i see the wisdom of what you say,but the question remains unanswered.I grew up believing that the catholic church was the beast.I believe if we concentrate our efforts on the beast,with Gods help he will revel his wisdom to us.I humble ask you take up this topic,if you haven’t already done so.AS I believe we are in the last days and Gods Judgement be upon us and the world I and my family whom seek guidance and wisdom through prayer know that Gods word is manifested in his word , dreams , prayer and watchmen on the wall .

    • Hi Frank,

      I discuss The Beast almost every day. In fact, the ‘rise of The Beast’ is a key point of this website. The Beast has a lot of different names:

      New World Order

      (The Jesuits?)

      All of those are categories on

      Thank you, Frank.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  5. The trillion dollar question is: “what does it mean to ‘Come out of her my people'”. Leave the county (USA or Rome), or to not participate in the ungodly practices (which of course we shouldn’t… But is that what this verse is referring two in its entirety…?)

  6. John, I do not like all the bad things that you say about the Catholic church. I am a Catholic and there are many good Catholics that live near me here in Central America. I think it is a better strategy to just express your belief’s without down grading other peoples church. Its a turn off. Are you a Jehovah’s Witness? They like to down grade all other religious belief’s. I don’t know why they do this. Christian belief’s are a matter of faith. We have no concrete proof that any of the story’s are true. Trampling on other peoples belief matrix is not a good way to spread your good Word sir. Just my opinión.

    • Hi Glen,

      Truth is truth. If any denomination has engaged in evil, that evil should be revealed. If any church engages in evil and heresy, that evil and heresy should be revealed. And yes, I have proof and evidence of all that I say. And, I have given that proof.

      To do otherwise would be a sin.

      Let me repeat that:

      For any organization that calls itself Christian… to not reveal the evil that they do and teach …that would be a sin.

      To say that there are good Catholics is like saying that there are good Atheists, and both are true. But, that doesn’t change the fact that the Catholic Church has murdered millions of Christians and has not apologized for that. They are engaged in heresy, and they have not apologized for that.

      I’m sorry, Glen. But, truth is truth, even when it hurts.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  7. My dear brothren and sisters
    I don’t understand your hatred of Islam,
    God talked with Quran very simple to bring more signs for believers to approve what would happen in future and believers must wait
    He said that all people around world would abuse believers but they must wait to see their rewards
    The Saudi government yes as u said in your article is a part of the beast like the Babylon whore, the Catholic church
    They use this Saudi government disguise in Islam to reach more to their points like the article u mentioned before for new world order gathering which occurred newly

  8. Hi, John. I appreciate your series on this topic. It takes a great deal of mental effort to work one’s way through this quagmire of competing claims.

    There are those who argue that the Great Whore is represented by Jerusalem/Judaism, but as Revelation is directed specifically to the church and its misdeeds and sins, it seems appropriate to eliminate Jerusalem, or Judaism, from contention.

    I find myself thinking that Rome is indeed the Great Whore. I’ve gone through the whole exercise on this topic; is it America (probably not – as America is part of the beast system, or at least will be in some form), is it Mecca (though Shoebat’s arguments are intriguing, I think there are many unsatisfied criteria with Islam), and at present, I can think of no other valid contenders.

    John, if you would be willing, could you delineate some of the resources you’ve read on Catholicism? I’ve read Alexander Hyslop, and most of Martin’s works, and am curious about other references, especially 19th century writers, if you have recommendations. Anything on the Jesuits would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks, John.

  9. Hey John, I still believe the whore represents all who love “the lie” from the serpent in the garden. Add to that lie all the rest like modern medicine/chemicals, fiat money, white mans food/chemicals. I believe the beast is the inbred royals, and apostate churches(not just the Catholics). Look at how many churches worship the mark of the beast/ X in the O (Xbox). The ones that put steeples/phalic symbols up. Double crosses and eternal flames/caninite religion etc.. How many churches worshipping the sun god on Xmas? Or Ishtar and Easter. Out of these royal inbreds will come the lawless one. The whore will not be defined along nationalist boundaries. It’s the same whoredom that brought the Jews down. They saw how cool and powerful the Phoenicians/philistines were with there merchant/war fleet, gold and spice trade, blue oyster cult/blue die for royalty, chariots, metallurgy, and black majik. Lovers of lies will dine off of dung heaps. Sandiego ca they will drink recycled sewer water. London they will ride the #2 bus fueled with methane gas. Land of the rising sun/east of Eden/ they made meat substitute from you know what. Their flag is the beats rising out of the sea( Grodzilla/from radiation). The whore doesn’t care if the beast hates them, they’re blinded by their love, envy, covetting of all those sugary sweet lies.

  10. Hi John-

    I think we must also look at other scriptures referencing Babylon, including Is 47 and Jer 51. R A COOMBES makes a powerful case that America is the Babylon in his book “America the Babylon” using exegetical analysis and etymology of Hebrew wording. Rome is not, as far as I can observe, “a land of many waters” but America most certainly is. In addition, America’s support for murderous Islamic monsters who are slaughtering the brethren as we speak certainly does qualify it with regard to having the blood of the saints on her hands. In addition, America is a land of many tongues and nations. Of course, it still could be the Vatican…just wanted to offer my 2 cents. Lord bless you and keep you, and thank you for your passionate heart for Truth. In Christ, Mark S

    • Hi Mark,

      Thank you for that input.

      If you do believe that the US is The Great Whore, then it is a requirement that you try to physically leave. The fact that it makes good sense is just icing on the cake.

      Keep up the good work, Mark.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  11. Hi John,

    Since you ignored Jerusalem entirely, let me take a stab at it:

    And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. – Revelation 17:5-6
    And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. – Revelation 17:9

    Millions of people have died fighting over Jerusalem and millions of people have died there by violent death, including Jesus Christ and multitudes of Christians. The seven (7) mountains (Rev 17:9) refer to Jerusalem: Mount Zion, Mount Ophel, Mount Moriah, Mount Besetha, Mount Acra, Mount Gareb, and Mount Goath.

    And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. – Revelation 17:15-16
    And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. – Revelation 17:18

    Literally billions of people from all over the world consider Jerusalem “The Holy City”. Three and one-half (3.5) million people visit Jerusalem per year. Religious tourism is a big, big money maker. The rulers of the earth walk on pins and needles when they deal with Jerusalem because they know they can’t treat this city like they would any other city on earth.

    And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. – Revelation 18:4
    And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: – Revelation 18:11
    And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! – Revelation 18: 16-18
    And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. – Revelation 18:21
    And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. – Revelation 18:24

    In the not too distant future, the “world” religion, with the antichrist as God, will be in Jerusalem:

    2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. – Revelation 19:2

    The antichrist will systematically kill nearly every true Christian on earth:
    Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
    Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    • Hi Michael Haller,

      Having lived in Jerusalem for 15 years, I know that any claims that Jerusalem is The Great Whore are completely ridiculous. Jerusalem rules over no one. And, the Jews have not caused the tiniest fraction of the deaths that the Roman Catholic Church has caused.

      Furthermore, Jerusalem is actually the poorest city per-capita in all of Israel.

      It is completely insane for anyone to try and make Jerusalem and the Jews ‘The Great Whore’. It requires a complete ignorance of history and current events.

      And lastly, and most importantly, you are completely ignoring what God intends to do at Jerusalem, with the Jewish people.

      Why would you focus on Jerusalem and ignore what the Roman Catholic Church has been doing for more than a thousand years?

      Come on, Michael. You can do better than this.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

      • Hi John,

        You are looking at Jerusalem as it is today. Just like the Bible commentators had a hard time with Bible prophecy one-hundred (100) years ago, you are having a hard time because you cannot comprehend what Jerusalem will be like when the son of perdition (Satan) is in charge…in the future…in “Jerusalem”!

        Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
        Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

        Jerusalem will be the capital of Satan and his one world government. It might not be too impressive now but neither was Tokyo when it was bombed into rubble in 1945… Washington D.C. was just swamp land before it was chosen to be the capital of the U.S.

        Jerusalem will be a combination of the world’s center of religion, politics, and finance…it will be a combination of Rome, New York, and London all rolled into one.

        Like you said John, everyone will know who is right within a few years.

        • Hi Michael Haller,

          Yes, I understand that. And, I really DO know that Jerusalem will a center – if not THE center – of the kingdom of the Antichrist. But, the description of the Beast Rider does not fit with Jerusalem.

          Even if Jerusalem were to gain in power and prestige in such an incredibly short period of time…

          …Where are her harlot daughters?

          And, since Jerusalem appears to be the capital of the Antichrist, it won’t be the CITY that rules over the kings of the earth, but the Antichrist, himself. So THAT negates Jerusalem.

          You can’t have it both ways.

          If the Antichrist rules from Jerusalem, it will be the Antichrist that rules – not Jerusalem. If Jerusalem rules, then Jerusalem will be in competition with the Antichrist. So the Antichrist could not come on the scene until decades later. And, that would violate the prophecy given to us by Jesus in Luke 21:32.

          What you are saying is that Jerusalem will become a Christian city, gain massive power in the world, and then immediately become corrupt and terrorize the world – causing the death of millions of Christians around the world. All in a maximum of ten years.

          That makes absolutely NO sense at all.

          The only way that anyone could make Jerusalem ‘fit’ is to take an antisemitic position, and that not only doesn’t make sense – it’s repugnant.

          The Jews don’t rule the world Michael. Please do not listen to those who say that they do.

          Yours in Christ,

          John Little

  12. While initially tempting, I’ve not been able to take the leep to identifying America as the great harlot. Rome is a much better fit and is an actual city. However there is another option to consider. A few bible verses:

    (Eze 23:4) And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah.

    Read the rest of the chapter for further discription as a harlot. This is one of many.

    (Mat 23:34) Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

    (Mat 23:35) That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    (Mat 23:36) Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

    (Mat 23:37) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

    (Mat 23:38) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

    This mirrors the discription of Babylon.

    (Rev 16:19) And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

    The great city is distinguished from the cities of the nations (ethnos), that is gentile cities. That implies the great city is not gentile. And there is another reference to the great city.

    (Rev 11:8) And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    I think we know what city is meant here. This has nothing to do with Jew hating any more than pointing to the U.S. as a candidate is American hating. In what city will the lawless one, the end time leader declare himself as God? In the temple? There is no city on earth that seems to be the epicenter of destiny than Jerusalem which will become a ‘cup of trembling’ to all nations.

    Just presenting another clear possibility.

    • Hi Craig A. Mouldey,

      First of all, you cannot see Jerusalem from the sea.

      Second, Jerusalem rules over no one – not spiritually, figuratively or otherwise. It’s not even the ‘spiritual heart’ of orthodox Judaism.

      Third, Jerusalem has been a neglected backwater for two thousand years. And, it is currently the poorest city in Israel, per-capita.

      Fourth, and most important, God has promised to save Israel, at Jerusalem. Just read Ezekiel 36-39. In fact, go here:

      I consider Jerusalem my hometown, and my parents still live there. I’ve lived there for 15 years. I know the place intimately. I’ve been up and down almost every street and alley, multiple times. There is just no way that Jerusalem could be the Great Whore.

      Why would we ignore the Vatican and place the blame on Jerusalem? You would have to be crazy to do something like that.

      Sorry, Michael. That’s just a non-starter.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

      • No, no, no, no. I’m not ignoring the vatican at all. I just wanted to bounce some verses off you pertaining to Israel’s history and how God referenced her in the past. The Vatican, pretending to be the heart of Christianity is dressed up like a whore and is in fact a state with delegates to other countries. The Roman Vatican represents the whore of Babalon much more precisely than anyone I can see. We probably don’t know but a part of what evil actually goes on there.

  13. I guess the main thing I don’t grasp here is the scale of murder that the Catholic Church would have to have committed, to fit well into this scenario. I can see the 50-60 million innocents (babies) that the current adult generations in the US have murdered, and the Catholics have steadily victimized all kinds of people over millenia, but it’s hard to imagine their numbers at anywhere near 50 million dead. What am I not seeing?

    • Hi David,

      Abortions do not equal murdered saints. So you cannot make that equation.

      As for the record of the numbers of Christians murdered by the Catholics, I’ve seen numbers as high as 100 million. However, I suspect that the number is more in the realm of 25 to 50 million. Many secular historians try to push that number down, but… they are secular and cynical about true Christianity.

      Furthermore, Catholicism has also worked night and day through the Jesuits to pervert as much of Christianity as possible. Just go through what I’ve uncovered over the past couple of years about the Jesuits, here:

      Furthermore, my research indicates that there is a depth to the evil inside of the vatican that even I do not really want to touch.

      Dig for the truth, David. You will find more than you could possibly want to know.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  14. Shalom John!

    Great analysis, very well done! Lot’s of interesting comments from the readers.

    That’s one thing I’ve noticed about this blog, The quality of the reader comments is a cut above many other sites, whether I may agree with the commenters point of view or not. The responses are usually articulated fairly well.

    It is good to be provoked to further study or research.

    God bless

  15. good studies and yeah time will show more.
    We can all also study for ourselves the false prophet who should be added into the mix as studies go along.
    Not a ton about him but a strong clue is-had two horns like a lamb-(rev 13:11)..and why “like a lamb”? Christ is THE the FP may make some claim as in representing Christ? “like” Christ/The Lamb? Anyway that’d be similar how the RCC is seen in the worlds eyes, the world thinks they represent Christ, I suppose statements on what a pope is would mean to say he’s the representative of Christ here on earth? Also their interfaith movement and working towards a global unity religion and those religions leaders are climbing onboard..and a global worldly religion would follow the AC when it’s time.

    Still, could be anyone who partly/also makes claim as if representing Christ, a fallen protestant..but the world already listens to the RCC as if representing Christ and in large numbers, that’s a powerful pulpit when a great deal of the world listens to you. With the pace of the worlds fall I dunno if there’d be time enough that we’ll see the rise of some other entity that will capture the worlds ears but it’s possible.
    Or the two horns like a lamb don’t really mean anything, but they seem to indicate something as why describe him like that?

    anyway good studies and the Lord in time will show more and thanks for the work and new info to consider.

  16. John,

    Been following you thread on and off, your getting close to putting it all together.
    Babylon in scripture is a system, a city and a nation, she is all three, let me say that again lest you missed it, Babylon is a system, a city and a nation. SHE IS ALL THREE. You MUST understand this.

    If you don’t understand this you will never understand ‘Babylon’ in scripture.

    Babylon means confusion, God just lumps any and all false religions or belief systems into ONE category, that is Mystery Babylon, whether Hinduism, Occultism, Buddhism, Romanism, apostate Christianity or whatever……. God just calls is ‘Babylon’ ………or confusion. The worlds system are Mystery Babylon….. go read that graph I sent some time ago again. Rev 17

    Thus Mystery Babylon, ‘the system’ is present in EVERY false belief system throughout time since the tower of Babel and continues through to Revelation.

    Babylon is ALSO a City and a Nation. America is part of Mystery, Rome is Part of Mystery, Islam is part of Mystery, the secret societies are part of Mystery. etc, etc, etc

    Yet go back and read the parameters that point to the City and the National aspects of ‘Babylon the Great’ that point ONLY to America. THe nation and city is us, the USA, you can’t get around those very specific pronouncements, Rome or Mecca does not even fulfill 10% of the parameters.

    Do your homework.

    Keep going, your getting close.

  17. Thank you for this study, and insight. I apologize for not saying this in my first message to you John. I tend to get blurred vision as to whom the beast is and whom the whore is. Could the great city be the incorporated city district of Columbia. Columbia is a goddess in the masonic order. The masons are certainly a false church, the buck act gave the treasury dept. the authority to extend the DC lines of taxation throughout all 50 states, In essence the reason we see DC inserting itself into the business of all 50 states is because we are all one big DC. States are an illusion. The USA is one big city of Columbia, with masonic origins. The Washington monument is an obelisk, Vatican city has one, and city of London has one also. These 3 incorporated cities are the military/religious/financial cities of the world. Could the 3 be one?

    • Hi weary,

      You could be right, although you should keep in mind that The Great Whore is not a military power, and Washington certainly is.

      But, if you believe that the US is this Great Whore, then you need to get out. I’ve been saying this for a long time, but not because America conforms to Revelation 17.

      Thank you, weary. Keep up the good work.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  18. Hi John,

    I’d like to throw ‘the city’ (London’s financial district) into the running.

    As representing man’s trust in himself and his own ability to provide versus God’s providence, the ultimate and most basic infidelity.

    What do you think?

  19. John, Baptists may or may not be “Protestants”, but they certainly accepted the Trinitarian formula for baptism without serious questioning. I understand that there are a few independent Baptist churches that baptize correctly “in the name of Jesus Christ” as in Acts 2:38, 8:16 l0:48, 19:5, for the most part, the Baptists teach that God is in 3 people.
    I take it by your comment about Baptists not being Protestant that you are a Baptist. Most of the Baptists I know do not believe in receiving the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues, thereby missing the mark on birth of Spirit in addition to birth of water.
    What a pity !!

  20. John, I like your explanation of the woman rider. I’ve also heard it taught that Rev. l7 is “spiritual Babylon” or the CC, and Rev. l8 is “physical Babylon” or the USA. I think “woman” in the scriptural sense can mean false doctrine, as well as weakness as in Zechariah 5:7-11 and Matthew 13:33.

  21. Hey John, An excellent article & I do agree with your conclusion about the Catholic Church. Especially, since the Pope seems to believe everyone is going to heaven & homosexuals are ok & can marry. But, I believe America or any country or church organizations can meet the same destruction of the harlot, if we are acting like a harlot. I believe America fulfills the description of the harlot, maybe we haven’t killed nearly as many Christians as the Catholic Church, but we have killed maybe 100’s of thousands in the Middle East, starting in Beirut, in the 1980’s. America’s precense in the Middle East has destroyed Christians families & their way of life, that has been existence for 2 thousand years. We destoyed Christians lives so that Muslims can take over. Pretty demonic behavior if you ask me, especially for a “Christian” Nation. God Bless & keep up the good work.

  22. In other places in the Bible, harlotry is often related to Israel’s relationship to God. Israel becomes a harlot when she forsakes her God to follow after other gods. Since the image of a harlot is used earlier in the Bible, I would think that the harlot here relates to people’s spiritual relationship to God. This leads me to believe the harlot is more likely the RC Church. That would also explain God’s command to come out of her (and her children). It would be interesting to see how many false religions can be tied back to her either directly or indirectly.

  23. Hello, John. I so appreciate your insights on this topic. As a former Catholic who left the church several years ago I can see how it might fit the bill. But what I’m wondering about is this: a future one-world religion, an amalgamation of sorts of all “Christian” (and maybe a bit of feel good pagan New Age-ism as well) that freely uses the name of Jesus Christ but at its core is evil and corrupt. There have been many efforts between church leaders, especially of the mainline Protestant denominations and the RC church to “bring them all back into the fold”. This false religion could have a false prophet (pope?) who could be the spokesman or “enforcer” for worship of the AntiChrist. “And he shall cause all, both great and small, to take a mark…” And would behead all who would refuse. Just think of the millions who would die.. Either Rome or New York City could be the base.
    As this religion comes into fruition God would certainly call all true Christians out of her.

    • Hi Patti,

      It’s wonderful to hear that you have escaped Catholicism. I too wonder about all this, and I believe that we will see more clearly when we need to see.

      Right now, my greatest efforts are towards the first set of catastrophes that are rolling down upon us – followed by Ezekiel’s Fire. Once all of that happens, we’ll see who is doing what.

      Of course, we would have to survive all that, to be able to see.

      Unfortunately, more than millions will die. I’m estimating AT LEAST a billion. Probably two billion. And no, I’m NOT talking about the Tribulation.

      Thank you, Patti. Keep up the good work!

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  24. I can’t help but notice that some people try to allegorize and overlook to much this Great Whore’s description when the Bible clearly provides this huge clue:
    It is A CITY!, It is A CITY!
    among other things, but this clue is a major key. Folks don’t spiritualize it. keep it simple

    • Hi Kirk,

      Thank you for that.

      I looked at the web page. Interesting. Vatican Hill is NOT one of the Seven Hills.


      Of course, the woman sits on seven MOUNTAINS. And each HEAD of the Beast is a MOUNTAIN – as well as seemingly kings. That can only mean empires.

      And, I believe that the Woman who rides the Beast is the Roman Catholic Church.

      Thank you, Kirk!

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little


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