The Rise of the Antichrist Begins in 2020?

I’m still trying to figure out how and where Martin Armstrong‘s models fit within our time frame of the Last Days. The reason why I am involved in trying to figure it out is that these models have had an uncanny accuracy, and they seem to correspond with the time frame that the Bible appears to lay out.

Am I saying that God is constrained by these cyclical patterns identified by Mr. Armstrong?

Absolutely not. But, God has clearly used natural forces in the past, and it is clear from prophecy that He will use natural forces in the future. So, when we see a natural process that correlates with something that God is doing, we should pay attention.


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The Rise of the Antichrist Begins in 2020?

Martin Armstrong has done an incredible job of pointing out something that should have been obvious. Life and the world around us run in cycles (and sometimes circles). All governments are corrupt. Greed and fear always rule financial decisions. War always happens when economies collapse. Empires collapse inward.

We talked about some of this yesterday, and you undoubtedly had that figured out, anyway. But, Martin has a set of models that describe all that and seem to be able to predict when a lot of it will occur in the future – the uncomfortably near future.

But, let’s talk a bit about some of the principles that Armstrong sees underpinning these models.

Empires Collapse Inward

Like it or not, the United States is an empire, and the mighty dollar is a representative of that empire. It reaches out and touches everyone on the planet. In fact, I doubt that there are very many people alive today that have not seen or touched a US dollar, and everyone thinks of it as the greatest currency on the planet – well… almost everyone.

Mr. Armstrong believes that the core of an empire is always the last to fall. So, just like Rome, America itself will not crumble until the rest of the world crumbles. And, that’s already started. He also said something else that’s interesting.

Not Hyperinflation – Predation

Empires don’t fall because of hyperinflation.

No, they fall because they start to prey upon their own people. They go after everyone’s assets. They plunder and pillage everyone that they can get their hands on.

Here’s a quote from Greg Hunter’s interview with Martin Armstrong on

“Knowing how empires die is fundamental to forecasting the world economy.”  Armstrong explains, “You have a lot of people talking about hyperinflation, and that’s not how empires actually die.  That’s more or less the peripheral type economies like Germany was after WWI.  The empires that have actually collapsed, such as Rome or Britain, you don’t see hyperinflation.  What you do see is massive debt that just keeps going and going–exactly in the process we are at now.  They are trying to sustain power.  So then, what do they do?  They get very aggressive with taxation and come after you.”

War And Unrest

He also says that there is a convergence of the war cycle. International war goes through a 25 year cycle, and civil war goes through a 300 year cycle. Both of those cycles are converging globally this year.

And, he says that, yes, there will be a shooting war in Ukraine.



Martin also made an interesting comment about Putin. He says that Putin is old-style Russian. He thinks about land. As many Russians said to Mr. Armstrong, “We’re doing well because Russia is bigger.” The fact that Russia had to bail out Crimea meant nothing. The important thing was that Russia had more land.

THAT is the driving force in Russia, and Putin has stated his intent to recreate the Soviet Union by 2020.

Now THAT is a very interesting comment for Putin to make, don’t you think?

It seems to me that Mr. Putin is looking very much like the Gog of ‘Gog and Magog’.

But, that’s not the most important point.

The Rise Of The Beast

Armstrong says that there is no currency ready to replace the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. The dollar is just too big, right now. But, he did point to something that governments are planning for, that will replace ALL currencies:

An Electronic Currency

He said that this is the reason why the US government didn’t put a stop to Bitcoin and the other cryptocurrencies. There is a plan for electronic currencies to replace what we have today.

Have you noticed the physical condition of the cash in your wallet?

Right. It’s showing a lot more wear and tear than you are used to. That’s because the US government is printing less of it – on purpose. They are nudging us ever closer to a global cryptocurrency system.

A cryptocurrency system that might start to really take hold of the world in 2020.

And, you can bet that this cryptocurrency will eventually require some kind of biometric tattoo on your right hand or forehead.

Is your head spinning, yet?

My Head Is Spinning

Mine is.

This is almost too much to take in at once, and my poor, overloaded brain is ready to shut down over all this.

Could it really be that the kingdom of the Antichrist, the Beast, begins its rise in 2020?

It very well could be.

Just remember that 2020 would be the beginning. The Antichrist system would not be a complete threat to us until it really began to reach its full potential and power.

However, all of this is theory for now, and we still need to survive Ezekiel’s Fire. And, I would think that something as traumatic as Ezekiel 39:6 and Isaiah 30:26 would throw the calculations off by more than a bit.

So, none of this is set in stone. Although, one thing is clear:

The time is short. VERY short.

We’ll see what happens.

The Interviews

Here are the recent interviews of Martin Armstrong that drove the writing of this article.

Interview by Kerry Lutz of Financial Survival Network

Martin Armstrong–Reports Of The Dollar’s Death Are Greatly Exaggerated

YouTube shortlink:

For those of you interested, there’s a reference to the fourth Blood Moon in the above interview. Very interesting. – JL


Interview by Greg Hunter of

War Cycle-Europe Absolute Disaster Zone-Martin Armstrong

YouTube shortlink:


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(That’s a link. Do more than just think about it.)


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42 thoughts on “The Rise of the Antichrist Begins in 2020?”

  1. I am finding you posts quite poignant. And refreshingly down to earth as far as perspectives go.
    At present I am running Ezekiel’s fire over in my mind. The reason is found in Joel and Revelation. Now I can’t quote from memory what verses, however, in both, are the ONLY 2 references to the infamous ‘blood red moon’ related to the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord. This event, as is Ezekiel’s fire, is a natural event. AND, it is THE FINAL sign before all goes to heck. Ezekiel’s fire, A CME, wouldn’t turn the sun as sackclothe and the moon red as blood. Yet, it does seem you have a solid grasp with it concerning Gog and all. Relative to both aspects, we cannot exclude Daniels’ prophecy of the final seven years we will have to endure before all will be righted by our Lord. As bad as life will become from Ezekiel’s fire, once the ‘blood red moon’ occurs, it gets far worse, for any who have to live through those times. Seek the Lord with your heart. And I mean seriously!

    • Hi Jim,

      Very true. As bad as Ezekiel’s Fire will be, it ISN’T the Tribulation. The Tribulation will actually be worse.

      And the moon as blood and the sun as sackcloth… that is A LOT of dust in the air.

      Thank you, Jim!

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  2. Was listening to some early morning sports radio in my area. Looking to catch up on an event I was going to. But to my surprise, no reporting on that. Instead, it was a psychologist talking about some sports related stuff to children and parents.

    Then, out of the blue, one of the hosts (each of them appear to be believers) asked, “What are your impressions of the holographic Michael Jackson performance from Sunday night & what effect may it have on our children?” I was somewhat shocked-in-a-good-way of this coming up on local sports–seems the most unlikely places are beginning to think through the exponential rate of change and technology these days. But the psychologist answered somewhat stunned but didn’t shy away. He answered, “Technology is developing faster than our minds are ready to process & comprehend. It could have devastating effects”

    Sounds like a clever plan to ambush the world with a sinister outcome. Your article today reminded me of this very thought, especially the parts of the bitcoins & electronic currency–it may look appealing & a path to an answer for the masses, but in the end its death. Your work is helpful in more ways than you can imagine. Thank you!

    “There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.” Proverbs 14:12, 16:25

  3. Ive been following you for a while and havent commented but to tell you the truth my friend everything thats happening if this isint the anti christ already to tell you the truth i dont want to be around when it does begin…

      • Do you believe that on a personal level it has begun? I mean you look at the news and all you see is day by day joke of church of satan attack all and every freedom of christianity im ready spirtually physically eh..

        • Hi Anthony,

          In a way, yes.

          But, the main event has yet to begin. We still have Ezekiel’s Fire, which will be a real setback for the NWO and the Antichrist. Once civilization is back up and running (it’s take a few years), then we’ll be back on track for the Beast system and the Antichrist.

          Are you ready for all this?

          Yours in Christ,

          John Little

  4. All of this is plausible, but if Ezekiel’s Fire is a CME or EMP, or if things boil over and go nuclear, a majority of the world’s infrastructure electronics will be fried ….. so it would seem a global electronic currency would be very difficult to implement …. or would it? Maybe they will just do it all by satellite, ya think? Can that be done in the scale it would take?

    • Hi DRG,

      A couple observations for you.

      First, I believe that Ezekiel’s Fire will deal a blow to the New World Order and act as a delay to their plans. This will give time for God’s people to fulfill their God-given purpose and prepare for the coming of Antichrist.

      Second, I believe that East Asia will be spared the worst of Ezekiel’s Fire. Remember that China will still have the infrastructure to rebuild the rest of the world.

      All in all, I would think that the New World Order would be set back something like ten years, and I like that idea.

      We’ll see what happens. I certainly do not claim to have a full understanding of it all. Brace for impact.

      Thank you, DRG.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  5. Hi Mr Little,
    Just thinking about the 8.6 year cycle and the 51.6 year cycle. If Israel and the world actually observed the 7th and 50th sabbath years as instructed in the Old Testement I think this would minimize the extremes of the business cycle, free the slaves, and give everyone a big vacation on a regular basis. How sweet. The Almighty is into cycles and these cycles are supposed to benefit us. (I’m not suggesting at all observing the Law for the sake of righteousness)

    Oh, and BTW, the first name of Washington DC was ROME, MARY LAND and the first white owner of the property was a man named Francis Pope … Francis Pope, Pope Francis… Francis Pope Pope Francis…
    This city was built on the banks of Tiber Creek.

    • Hi Susan,

      I agree. If we follow the cycles that God intended for us, we would indeed live better lives. One of the reasons why I miss Jerusalem so much is that I am forced to have a rest day on Saturday. We all need a day off once a week. And, you are right that we need a year off in every seven, and every 50th.

      As to your point about Washington, D.C…. OUCH!

      Thank you, Susan. Excellent comments.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  6. Jesus said not to go after those who say the time has drawn near.

    Luke 21:8 And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore do not go after them.

    • Hi Sigh,

      You are twisting scripture.

      First of all, Jesus was speaking about ‘false Christs’. I am NOT claiming to be Jesus.

      Second, that verse was about the time period preceding AD 70 – NOT the Last Days.

      THIRD – you have forgotten verse 36:

      Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. – Luke 21:36

      THAT is the foundational verse of this website and what I am trying to help you do.

      Are you watching and preparing?

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

      • Not so…

        Read the verse carefully

        Luke 21:8 And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore do not go after them.

        1) Many will come in the name of Jesus

        2) They will say, ‘I am He” (false christs)


        3) They will say ‘The time has drawn near’ (pre-trib “rapture” believers and those who aren’t being patient from what can be seen thus far)

        Both statements are in quotes and separate.

        Matthew 24 and Mark 13 are parallel chapters and the resurrection of the dead has not occurred yet so it surely wasn’t AD 70

        Through much tribulation we must enter the kingdom of God.

        Nobody gets a free pass and even the thief on the cross went through some tribulation.

        • Hi Sigh,

          Please understand that Jesus wasn’t giving an ‘OR’ statement. It was an ‘AND’ statement, meaning both things are true. Just because someone is pre-trib doesn’t mean that they are a ‘false christ’.

          Also, you must understand that Luke 21 has a 2000 year gap, here:

          And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. – Luke 21:24

          There were many false Christs that came after Jesus.

          However, we also know that false Christs will be coming in the Last Days, as well.

          And, I completely agree with you that we must suffer much tribulation as we enter the Kingdom of God.

          Thank you, Sigh.

          Yours in Christ,

          John Little

  7. Christians “THINK” that “Ezekiel 38 39” will happen before the Tribulation BUT IT WONT,
    And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

    8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

    9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

    Zechariah 2:4-5
    And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein:

    5 For I, saith the Lord, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her.

    The, “Magog’ invasion is at the End of the Millenial reign where, “THE SAINT” both Jew and Gentile in Christ have lived and reigned with Christ a 1000 years and at the End Satan shall be set free and go out with Magog and Gog to encompass the great city, “The New Jerusalem” but God shall destroy them with fire himself!

    • Hi Daniel Simpson,

      I’m sorry, but I must disagree.

      Um… Ezekiel 38 and 39 are only superficially identical to Revelation 20. In fact, the only thing identical is that there are two entities named Gog and Magog, there is an army, and it is in Israel. However, please note the differences because they are important.

      Ezekiel – After the battle, the salvation of Israel followed by a 7 year clean up.
      Revelation – After the Battle, The destruction of the World followed by the White Throne Judgment

      Ezekiel – A handful of nations involved. There are nations NOT involved – Sheba, Dedan, Tarshish, Young Lions, Isles
      Revelation – All nations involved with NONE left out.

      Ezekiel – Only a sixth make it to Israel to attack.
      Revelation – They assemble around Jerusalem – all of them.

      Verdict: The situation in Ezekiel is different than the situation in Revelation.

      Please get this right, Daniel. This is no longer an issue of ‘differences in theology’. This is life and death.

      Are you prepared to die for your interpretation?

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  8. Hello John, I appreciate your newsletters.
    I do not know who Martin Armstrong is, nor have I followed him..but it is extremely interesting to me that he is saying the antichrist will be revealed in 2020. If you read the e-mail i sent lableled
    “this Man’s story May change Your Life”

    Thursday, April 17, 2014
    Man’s Trip To Heaven Story Going Viral!

    about the man who went to heaven, you will know that Jesus told him (basically) that he would be standing in heaven with multitudes of people before his 50th birthday..which is Dec 2019. That he would not be in his “current body” before he turned 50. Therefore he will be in heaven in the rapture of the church. By the way, for any naysayers, his description of heaven coincides with Jesse Deplantis”s and Kat Kerr’s accounts of heaven. It is not about “floating on clouds’ for eternity…it is a very glorious and busy place, created for us. And our journey here is preparation for what we will be doing there. This is just a temporary stop before our real purpose and life comes to fruition!
    If you know scripture, you will know that the antichrist will not be revealed until after the rapture. (He who has been restraining him will be gone-the Holy Spirit in the body of Christ) furthermore, if you have REALLY researched and studied scripture, you will know that Jesus will most likely if not definitely call home His bride on Rosh ha shannah, which is usually in Sept-Oct–(that is why it says in the Word that you will not know the exact day or time–because it changes every year)
    We are truly living in the last days and are blessed to be alive at this time. I truly believe that the countdown has begun and we must press close to Him and fulfill His purposes here, fulfilling our destiny in Him before He calls us home with the trumpet, prior to the 7 year tribulation.
    Glory to God!
    Further reference found at The book he refers to in thir update is an EXCELLENT book that I highly recommend. You can order it on the website.
    Here you will get a more complete picture of God’ 7000 year plan

  9. Hi, Mr Little,
    Thinking about what Mr Armstrong is writing about I am thinking the Russians and Chinese governments are reading all his stuff also. Now put youself in their sociopathic place along with what you know the Bible says about the Gog and Magog war. if they take out America will they really care that it wrecks the world economy? No I don’t think so. if everyone in the entire world is wrecked or dead it just makes it easier for them to loot everyone. They want every bodies stuff. Sounds retarded right but that’s what the Bible says starts wars.
    what Russia doesn’t know is they will lose 5/6 of their army in the mountains of Israel. I do think many Muslims are killed in this invasion also and everyone in the entire world will know the Allmighty saved Israel. Russia and The Muslims will be gut shot devastated. I can’t imagine Putin remaining in power in Russia after that. so, just pondering……

  10. This is for you personally to study, since comments are limited.
    I encourage all to read this, it was well done whether researched or copied from somewhere. I have for a long time wanted to compile such a concise list of evidence for these Christians that have not been taught, not readabout or studied the word of God regarding this matter, and are preparing to go THROUGH the tribulation. Read this and you will see that the evidence is quite clear. Whoever posted this may have missed a few scriptures on the subject, one being in Daniel which I have included by adding it as # 17. Be blessed!

    What He says to the churches in ch 2 and 3 are very revealing and the church is NOT mentioned in the rest of Revelations-because the bride (as in the 5 of the 10 virgins that were ready and had their lamps lit, were taken but the others left behind with the door closed Matt 25:1) is in heaven at the marriage supper of the lamb!

    The complete picture of this is in the Jewish courtship and wedding-designed and put into their law by God..God prepared His people for things to come, but we have to remove the blinders, and our own pride. I pray that this helps. I do believe that the sun’s effects play a part in the end scenario,but how can we fulfill Jesus’s last command “to spread the gospel of grace to the whole world”–before the end would come..How can we do that if there is no power, no communication etc…it is all about God’s timing…there is a wealth transfer prophesied that is about to be unleashed, then a great harvest..” it shall be as during the days of Noah, people will be rising up,buying and selling etc–(not “dug in”-surviving). then the rapture..during the tribulation many will come to Jesus as well.

    • Hi Cd,

      Thank you for such a well thought out comment. I’m so sorry that I could not include all of it. I do make exceptions, but I just couldn’t this time.

      Part of the problem (other than length) is that you didn’t offer a single verse that makes a firm, unequivocal statement that says “God will come and take the Christians away before the Tribulation begins.”

      More than 25% of the Bible talks about the Last Days, so it is a vital and important topic. The fact that God does NOT say that we will be raptured away from danger is very telling. Yes, I know that many make inferences that God is saying this in other verses, but they are only inferences and they can easily be ascribed to a different interpretation.

      Please understand that God WILL provide a way of escape for those who obey Him and Love the truth, but He never said that this escape comes in the form of a ‘rapture’.

      How has God provided a way of escape in the past?

      We have many examples, the most prominent of which is ‘The Land of Goshen’.

      Cd, until I discovered that Christians were using the pretribulation rapture to ignore the warning signs of impending disaster, I didn’t care that much about what people believed about the rapture.

      Now, I have to care because those who teach the pretribulation rapture are condemning brothers and sisters to a terrible death. Furthermore, these teachers are purchasing for themselves the wrath of a holy God.

      The pretribulation rapture theory is a lie, and this lie will cause millions to die terribly. And, their blood will be on the hands of all who preached this deception.

      I’m sorry to be so blunt, Cd. I really am, but time is short. People MUST wake up.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  11. The idea of a cryptocurrency being a predecessor to the beast currency is a red herring. For anyone who understands the technology, it is the exact opposite. First of all, it is constructed to be inherently private. Centralization would defeat the purpose of “crypto.” The reality is we have a current electronic currency system already in existence now comprising the global SWIFT payment system, which is centralized and completely non-private. Also cryptocurrencies cannot even be a real substitute for cash since it should take over an hour to complete a transaction (although some people improperly settle for 10 minutes). That can be lowered a bit, but if you lower it too much it also defeats the purpose as you do not want coins to be able to be mined too easily. What bitcoin really should be conceived of as an alternative to the global SWIFT system, and not a substitute for cash and gold in terms of day to day use and storage of value. The elite will do ANYTHING to kill cryptocurrencies – it is not your mark of the beast system.

    • Hi Chris,

      I agree. Bitcoin could never BE a ‘Beast Currency’. But, what it does do is concentrate the minds of people so that they will be looking at purely ‘electronic currencies’ as a viable idea. When the Beast currency is introduced, it will be billed as just as safe as Bitcoin – while not being truly safe or anonymous.

      Good point, Chris. Thank you.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  12. Here we are now in 2020. Nice to find this post still up and I
    believe, accurate. I’m expecting the LORD’s return this year.
    Not the end of the world, but the rapture of the one true church.
    Events are happening quickly now. Daniel 11:30 reads, “Ships from
    the western coastlands… The next verse is the set up of the abomination.

    • Hi Dani,

      I’m sorry, but that just isn’t going to happen. This article was from 2014, almost six years ago. Back when we expected things to happen sooner.

      You have been tricked by a false theory that is 200 years old. If you wish to survive the difficult times that are coming, you must shake off the lies and see the truth.

      Read the following:

      And then, read the rest of the book.

      Lies are NOT a protection, Dani.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

      • I wasn’t talking about 200 YO conjectures. How can anyone talk about the end times w/o mentioning Daniel? How could they (Smith or Henry) know when it wasn’t now at the end of time? Just like the LORD wasn’t accepted by the establishment, new information won’t be well received by this generation. The end is now and the book recently opened to hopefully some eyes to see the true interpretation in Daniel 11.

  13. Hi John,
    April 4th 2020 is NISAN 10 (Hebrew Calendar) Tenth Day of FIRST Month.
    Joshua 4:19. And the people came up out of Jordan on the TENTH [day] of the FIRST month, and encamped in Gilgal, in the east border of Jericho.
    That was going to their Promised Land.
    Palm Sunday = Nisan 10th when Jesus rode the donkey into Jerusalem.
    John 12:13. Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed [is] the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.
    Jesus said: – Matt.23:39. For I say unto you, Ye shall NOT SEE ME henceforth, TILL ye shall say, Blessed [is] he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
    COULD that also be NISAN 10?
    I believe that the Pope Francis is going to head the UNITED Nations – as Secretary General this March 26th 2020 – 42Months before the “Last Trump” – New Year Trumpet blown on September 16th 2023. (Advent/Resurrection (1 Cor:15:52)
    How do I come to 2023 as the Resurrection Date?
    Sultan Suleiman Commanded to Rebuild Jerusalem walls & Streets 1533AD?
    Dan.9:24-27 = 70x SEVENED (“Weeks” of Yrs) = 490yrs later is 2023?
    Gentile OCCUPATION of 434yrs (62x SEVENED) = 1967
    Luke 21:24. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be TRODDEN DOWN OF THE GENTILES, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
    7x SEVENED = 49yrs = Seven “Weeks” (Dan.9:25) = 1967 + 49yrs = 2016.
    Dan.12:1 – Michael Stands & Time of TROUBLE. (7 Yrs?) – [2016 – 2023?]
    2016 is Hebrew Calendar October 3rd 2016 [5777] Hebrew year #.
    Dan.12:12 – Blessed is he that WAITS 1,335DAYS = May 30th? = Pentecost/Shavuot II.
    1,260DAYS BEFORE the Last Trump (September 16th 2023) = April 4th 2020 = Nisan 10.
    Rev.12:6. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.
    RAPTURE = April 4th 2020???

    • Hi Olaf,

      I sense that you really mean well, and that you wrote this comment with the best of intentions. So, I hope that you do not take insult from what I am about to say, since I am not writing any of this out of personal animosity.

      None of what you have written here will come to pass. None of it. Furthermore, the basis upon which you have made these calculations is completely and deeply incorrect. If you are not the one making such ‘calculations’, then I strongly recommend that you stop listening to whoever would give you such false information.

      Worse, because it is so false, it really is a ‘false teaching’. If you have been spreading this around, then you have made yourself into a false teacher. This happens to all of us from time to time, and I’ve done this a time-or-two myself. And, I’ve had to apologize for doing it.

      Yes, I know that you are placing ‘question marks’ around your statements. But, my argument isn’t with the dates that you are presenting. The problem is with your basis for making such ‘calculations’. You are on the wrong track. Deeply on the wrong track.

      Read my book, When Jacob Returns. That should help you understand where you should be looking to see what the Bible says about the coming of the Antichrist and the prophecies that MUST be fulfilled before that event.

      We must love the truth, Olaf. Without that love, we are lost.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  14. John, I am not insulted by your answer. I am certain that you were like a Bull to a red flag with my suggestion in that last LINE – RAPTURE = April 4th 2020???

    I did not come down in the last shower, yet I am not demented in spite of waiting for my next birthday to turn 70. For the past 40 years I have studied prayerfully to PROVE to MYSELF that the concept of a RAPTURE is ANTI – BIBLICAL garbage, but I can assure you, the MORE I tried to PROVE my ANTI – RAPTURE upbringing, the MORE proof I got from Scripture that it FITS with the AGENDA that YHVH has in store for us.


    • Hi Olaf,

      Again, you mean well. And, I can tell you that all of my favorite pastors are pre-tribbers. But, I’m still forced to tell you that this doctrine of a Pretribulation Rapture is heresy. Thankfully, it’s not the kind that will get you sent to Hell. But, it’s still heresy.

      Jesus and Paul and John all said that the Rapture will be AFTER the Great Tribulation of the Antichrist. Even Revelation speaks of the angel that reaps the harvest. Furthermore, there is not a single verse that describes a pre-tribulation rapture. Not. A. Single. One.

      This means that you have a problem. A big one. All that you have is supposition and conjecture. All those verses that you posted were an attempt to force the Bible to say something that it does not say.

      The only way that you could have come up with those verses, in that way, is to START with a belief in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, and then try and get the Bible to ‘prove it’. But, that is now how we are to read our Bible.

      When we read our Bible, we are to submit to the words that we read. S-U-B-M-I-T. Pretribbers are NOT submitting to the words of the Bible.

      For more proof of what I mean, go here:

      Now, you’ll notice that I have even harsher words for most ‘post-tribbers’. Some of them have gone into heresies that WILL get them sent to Hell. But, that’s a different story.

      Olaf, we are supposed to love the truth. This means that we do not claim something to be true, unless the Bible says it.

      Are you willing to submit to the words of God?

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  15. It appears that the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is behind what is happening in society – everything left to itself tends towards chaos.
    When the Light of the Gospel is present in a commmunit/empire then it is also the ‘salt of the earth’ that preserves that which is good. Matt 5:13ff. So a society left to itself without the power of the gospel will fall sooner or later.
    For a century in the UK the gospel that our churches have presented is powerless, hence 10,000 closed churches. Was it Tozer or who, that said – the churches are the moral compass of society – when a compass’ magnetism fails, all is lost. a broken church leads inevitably to a broken society – but remember Leonar3d Ravenhill, a modernised quote – A century of pseudo Christianity has only produced broken lives, broken families and broken churches. That in turn has produced a broken society where Satan’s Kingdom advances with impunity and unchallenged every day it produces more and more misery and suffering; however, a handful of heaven-sent young people, full of the Holy Spirit, will reverse all that declension in a matter of weeks when God comes in Revival and Awakening in answer to the fervent prayers of His people.

    • An interesting application the Law of Thermodynamics. I like it. As for the rest, just remember that when the cup of iniquity is full, revival only works for only as long the people are revived. I wish that we could be optimistic Graham. I really do. – JL

      • I share your doubt about our churches, Revival looks a long way off. However, millions are being saved in Asia and the southern hemisphere so God is preparing for something big. With Islam falling apart I can imagine an Awakening coming soon; it will drag some church along with them. The other big factor is God & Magog, many MIddle East watchers see it happening any day; especially with the Beirut problem adding some big sparks. Islam will very likely fall if G&M happens!


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