Prophecy Clock – Timeline – Gog and Magog

Now, we get to the reason why I started this series – time. The more that we can understand the timing of future events, the more that we can prepare. And, the more joy that we can have, knowing that our redemption ‘draweth nigh’ (Luke 21:28).

And no, what we are going to discuss is NOT something that we can be dogmatic about. A lot of this will be guesswork – but, hopefully ‘educated guesswork’. What I hope to do is take what we know with absolute surety, and build on top of that – which is why I made such a fuss about The Rapture, yesterday.

By the way, when I talked about the ‘three absolute proofs’ that made a pre-tribulation rapture impossible, I did NOT mean to indicate a timing or order to those ‘three absolute proofs’. The reign of the Antichrist MUST start before the Tribulation. The Tribulation MUST start before the resurrection. And, we which are ‘alive and remain’ are taken up closely after the ‘dead in Christ’ are resurrected. Sorry about any confusion, my focus gets a little too narrow sometimes.


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Prophecy Clock – Timeline – Gog and Magog

There are several things that we are sure will happen within the 23 year period that I talked about last Wednesday:

  • Financial Collapse
  • Israeli Natural Gas Production
  • Gog and Magog (Ezekiel 38 and 39)
  • Salvation of Israel (Ezekiel 36 through 39, Zechariah 12 and 13)
  • Obama leaves/does-not-leave office
  • Syria and Egypt destroyed and transformed (Isaiah 17 and 19)
  • Rise of a new global monetary system
  • Rise of the Antichrist AND his religion
  • Persecution from the Antichrist for 3.5 years (Revelation 12)

All of that will happen, and they probably happen in that order. Probably. The next challenge is to understand how much time should be connected to those events.

Gog and Magog in 2016

It takes time to gather an army and coordinate logistics. And yes, logistics is an enormous challenge. As the saying goes, an army marches on its stomach.

How much time would it take for Iran, North Africa, Russia and whoever else to get together for an attack on the Middle East?

Well, relations between Russia and Iran aren’t firm enough yet, but they are certainly moving in that direction. We will need to see what happens over this Summer, but I think that the earliest that Gog and Magog could happen would be the Summer of 2016.

And yes, it MUST happen in the Summer. Fighting during the rainy season would be a recipe for disaster.

And, there’s an interesting correlation to 2016.

Obama leaves/does-not-leave office

The midterm elections in the US this Fall will probably leave Obama even weaker than before. The Democrats may even lose their majority in the Senate. (Poor Harry Reid) Couple that with a weak foreign policy and a weakening military, and Russia might think that they have a ‘free pass’ for military activity.

Also, if it seems like a more hawkish Republican presidential candidate is going to win the 2016 elections, (assuming that Obama doesn’t make a play to stay in power) Russia would want to shoot for a Summer 2016 attack on Israel.

And, 2016 will also be the year when Israel’s natural gas production starts to rapidly increase.

Israeli Natural Gas

The Israeli Tamar gas field started delivering natural gas last year, and they plan to start exporting gas in 2016. The Leviathan field may also be producing natural gas by 2016. Whatever the exact dates for production and export, Israeli Natural gas poses a threat to the Russian natural gas monopoly for Europe.

That’s a big hook in the jaws of Gog (Ezekiel 38:4).

Iranian and Russian Natural Gas

The other side of this is the Iranian Natural Gas pipeline that is supposed to go through to Syria. Right now, that’s not looking so good. Both Russia and Iran are dedicated to making that pipeline happen, but the Syrian civil war is stopping it. This Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline won’t happen until the area has been pacified.

Hmmmm… ANOTHER big hook in the jaws of Gog.

Take all of this together, and you have a recipe for a massive war in the Middle East.

But, will it mean a war in the Summer of 2016?

Financial Collapse

There’s another element to all of this – Financial Collapse. We’ve been predicting a collapse for years now, and we’ve been amazed that the US has held on for so long. But, there are limits to how long the central banks can keep this up.

Some very well connected people have been saying that 2014 is the beginning of the end, and I am prepared to agree. And, this financial collapse will have a direct impact on US armed forces.

If this collapse accelerates fast enough and far enough, America will lose the ability to field a large enough military to block a Russian incursion into the Middle East. Spare parts inventories will go to zero, aircraft will be grounded and ships will be unable to leave port.

And, the financial collapse will not hurt Russia nearly as much as the US.

Summer of 2018

Now, I threw out 2016 as a possibility. And, there ARE some indications that it could happen then. However, there are strong indications that it could be later.

For instance, we believe that Obama and his minions may stage a ‘soft coup’ and seek for a way to stay in power and ‘finish the job they started’. This would cause the US to descend into a death spiral of civil war and destroy any external power that the US had.

In one fell swoop, a massive power vacuum would be created that Europe would be unprepared to fill, and that would leave Russia and China to do what they want on the global chessboard.

Under THOSE conditions, the primary date could be the Summer of 2018. Russia, Iran and North Africa would have the Summer of 2017 to work on their coordination and their integration.

Also, Vladimir Putin has a bit of a legal problem that will rear its ugly head in 2018. If he wants to remain in the presidency, he will need to make a case for being ‘president-for-life’. War in the Middle East just might be the reason he needs.

Also, if the collapse of the American financial system is slow enough, it might not impact US military preparedness until 2017 or 2018. In such a case, Russia would want to hold off until that happens.

It’s In The Timing

I lean towards a 2018 time frame, but it could go either way. Rapid financial collapse, atrocious foreign policy, bungled militarism and social upheaval in the US could push us toward 2016.

For those of you thinking that Gog and Magog is set to happen later than 2018, you will need to make a case for a different set of players than the ones that we see now – and maybe a different set of reasons for playing. And frankly, I just don’t see Vladimir Putin giving up his big chance to grab everything.


Please also remember that power does not like a vacuum. A collapse of American power will draw one, or all, of the big players to step in and fill that vacuum. If they do not, they risk losing the power that they already have.

And yes, America WILL collapse. There can be no other possible future for the United States, and that will mean a future devoid of international power.

America’s retreat from the central stage will cause a massive upheaval in the balance of power. A lot will depend on how the US will manage that retreat.

We’ll See

We’ll see what happens, but it should be clear to everyone that the next four years are going to be… interesting. And, if Gog and Magog happens in 2018, then that knocks four years off of the 23 years left on the prophecy clock.

Will there be just 19 years left, after Gog and Magog?

Are you ready for this?
(That’s a link. Do more than just think about it.)


If you find a flaw in my reasoning, have a question, or wish to add your own viewpoint, leave a comment. Your input is truly welcome.


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24 thoughts on “Prophecy Clock – Timeline – Gog and Magog”

  1. I certainly agree with your conclusions regarding the anti christ and timing of our being caught up to be with the Lord. We will first get to face ‘the beast’ in a great tribulation which the Lord Himself will cut short. I do want to add an additional thought to the relationship of the ressurection to the rapture.
    (1Co 15:51) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

    (1Co 15:52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    Both events occur at the last trumpet, in the twinkling of an eye. While it is true the ressurection occurs first, it also appears the catching up of those who remain occurs almost simultaneously. In the twinkling of an eye.
    I value your writings.

  2. Dear John Little:
    Thank you for helping me in my struggles concerning the Rapture for I have checked verses and also checked the context. I do not want to be like False Prophets Joel Osteen, Benny Hinn or Kennth Copeland type and only quote verses that claim to prove a point, but when those verses are put in context (verses before and after) does the true meaning come out. The video from yesterday concerning the Pre-tribulation fraud suffers from this problem. As for the timing of things as discussed above, the Global elite do not want to separate the collapse of US (dollar) from the war of Gog and Magog (with Russia). The elite want to make it look like Russia and its allies caused the economic collapse. This is the easiest way to blame Russia and for the sheeple to connect the dots. That is how the main stream media (MSM) portray Russia now in Ukraine, eventhough the US is the bad guy. Thank you John for being as a light and salt to the world. God Bless in Jesus’ name, thanks, Norbert.

    • Hi Norbert,

      Thank you for your warm regard.

      Please understand that I did NOT give the verses out of context, and I described that context. Please also see the response to your earlier comment. You MUST get free of this pre-trib lie, and you do not have much time to prepare.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little


    Brother John Little,
    I love you and pray for you, God’s Grace!

    I have a few points for your consideration in determination of the Rapture. Surely you do not believe that it is so very easy to persuade those who are adept in the study to just relent on such a profound issue as the glorious rapture of the Hinderer . You see? In chapter 2 verse 7 of 2Thessolonians there is mention of (He) who letteth. At first reading one might believe this could only be the Holy Spirit, or possibly as in past times you might believe it to be Michael The Arch Angel? When you go to the text and allow it to speak, you find it to be, when something is mentioned as mystery, it often is something that we are to take a closer look at it. Let’s read the verse and break it down. 2Thesolonians 2:7 “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, UNTIL (HE) be taken out of the way. The mystery or musterion; that which is hidden or unknown, not yet revealed. This is the unknown source of the next word which is iniguity, Anomia; transgression or lawless, one who transgresses the law. put them together and you have the one of mystery who is a transgressor of the law. I believe that to be a reference to the Lawless One, he who does not follow the laws of God’s design. I believe this to be a clear reference to someone who is not transgressing the laws of man, but the laws of design God established in his creation. Once again the reference arises of the one who corrupts and corrupted the DNA of mankind by interbreeding with the daughters of men. If you understand the reading of Genesis 6:4 it says “There were GIANTS in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (bene Ha Eloheim) came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became MIGHTY MEN which were men of old, men of RENOWN. Giants in this passage is referring to giants, N’ phil, this is a masculine noun, meaning the nephilim, or fallen ones. In other places in scripture it refers to them as Raphim which means dead. So we have offspring created by the union of the sons of God, fallen angels, and the daughters of men. The results is unnatural offspring, or giants. This is the first mention of the corruption of the DNA of mankind. the second incursion occurs after the flood, hence the phrase “also after that”.

    I went back to the beginning of the LAWLESSNESS, to make a point. The Lawless One is the one who was responsible for the corruption of the laws of design of God. The laws of DNA as pertaining to mankind. In effect, this lawless one has corrupted the DNA of God.

    • Hi James Timms,

      (I’m answering both your comments in one here. Thank you for that thoughtful entry.)

      Please be careful about complicated logic. Jesus and the Bible were very straightforward about all of this. It’s very simple. It’s very direct. And, you should always be suspicious of anyone that gives you a thousand words, when just ten would do. (That was not directed at Steve’s book, but the pre-trib theory.)

      Please understand that 2nd Thessalonians was not describing the removal of the Holy Spirit or the Church from hindering the coming of the Antichrist. What was being described is the cessation (or the stopping) of the block. Just the fact that the Church has been engaged in dreadful sin would do the trick. Paul was not speaking of removal, but of cessation.

      Unfortunately, I’m not able to comment on Steve Quayle’s book. I’m sure that it’s excellent, but I don’t have resources to comment on the corruption of our DNA. But, what little that I do know points to the truth of what Steve is saying.

      Thank you, James. I really appreciate your involvement.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  4. Wow. Excellent post, as always. As to how the US will manage its retreat from the center of the world stage …… I rather think it will be like this: Rev 18:7-8: “7 How much she hath glorified herself and lived voluptuously! That much torment and sorrow give back to her; for she saith in her heart,‘I sit a queen and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.’8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death and mourning and famine, and she shall be utterly burned with fire; for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.” I think I remember from one of your writings that you do not see Rev 18 as applying to the US but to the Catholic Church. I see images in it that could apply to either, possibly both. Some seem applicable to a location, more than to a worldwide organization. Like famine … there have been famines in one part of the world or another all along, but that never fazed the CC. I do get the 7 hills analogy, but if someone nuked Rome, the CC would not cease to exist. American society, especially now that the depression and WW2 era ones have all but vanished, seems unique in its belief that nothing can seriously threaten us. They have never experienced famine, invasion, total collapse and chaos (yet), a police state (but we’re getting there), etc. It’s not real to them, they have no frame of reference. They don’t bother to stay informed on what is happening elsewhere, they’re too busy living carelessly. I can just picture the judgment of God coming as a complete sucker punch. I do think the aftereffects of an EMP, whether from God or indirectly through our enemies, would mean the end and no recovery would be possible. Once down, the hyenas would close in and we’ll never get up again, except possibly in the millennium.

    • Hi DRG,

      I vacillate back and forth over who is The Great Whore of Rev 18. It’s been hard to see Rome’s current power over the Earth. However, I am beginning to see it more. They have a LOT of money, and they are truly evil.

      Thank you, DRG.

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  5. There seems to be a great misunderstanding regarding a “rapture” ; a word that does not appear anywhere in scripture. Many have expressed that they believe that they could, in their current condition, float up into the air to meet Jesus. This is truly absurd to anyone with wisdom.

    Many times in the bible, holy men pray to God to be “quickened”. If we go back to the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, before the fall, did not have physical bodies as we understand them today. The used their spiritual senses that are of the Tree of Life. Eating from the Tree of Life, one naturally does the will of God.

    Only after Adam and Eve began to eat from the Tee of Knowledge of good and evil, did their bodies coagulate into the bodies we have now.

    This is why it is written. “I those days, men will seek death and shall not find it; They will long to die, but death will elude them. This is the kind of torture of God’s judgement if one is caught unprepared. God isn’t up in Heaven counting your sins. His bright Light / Fire / Love is what cleanses us of our sins. Of course the faithful have been preparing diligently by honest and true repentance.

    Why do not Christians ever mention this next inconvenient Truth spoken by Christ Himself?

    “A disciple is not above his master, but should become like his master in every Way”

    EVERY WAY!!!!!

    If you have faith as big as a mustard seed…How is your Faith these days?


    I am sorry if what I have written offends, but Jesus also said “The gate is narrow, and few will find it”
    No one that is having faith in their human intellect to guide them is knocking. This is not Faith in God, or Christ at all.

    Step it up. Be inwardly still, know God literally, not with your imagination from common learning. Wisdom is born of Silence, just as Jesus plainly told you not to think of what you will say in advance. This is death swallowed up in victory.

    Anything less, is arrogantly, and foolishly, chasing the wind.

    • Hi Dave,

      Unfortunately, I must disagree with you. The word really is gather up, or episynagō. This is a physical gathering up (into the air) to be with Christ at His second coming.

      No matter how absurd a wise man may call it, we are still required to follow the Bible.

      Thank you, Dave.

      Yours in Christ

      John Little

      PS. I apologize for having to shorten your comment.

    • “Many have expressed that they believe that they could, in their current condition, float up into the air to meet Jesus. This is truly absurd to anyone with wisdom.”

      2 Kings 2:11-13
      11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. 12 Elisha saw this and cried out, “My father! My father! The chariots and horsemen of Israel!” And Elisha saw him no more. Then he took hold of his garment and tore it in two.

      13 Elisha then picked up Elijah’s cloak that had fallen from him and went back and stood on the bank of the Jordan.

      No where are there any words explaining a burial of a body/funeral. So, either Elisha left Elijas Carcass lying in the dirt —– or he “Floated up into the air in his current condition?!”


  6. Will the coming economic collapse end US global financial hegemony?

    And (he) excerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and (he) causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
    The Satanic power of the first beast is intelligence gathering, it’s political, economic, religious, and military power and it is global in scope, so to with the second beast, add superior technology!
    The time remaining until the return of Christ is far to short for any other nation to rise up to replace of the US, held as the undisputed super power of the global empire.
    Keep in mind that based on scripture deception in the last days is key with every power move on the global chess board.
    Every possible advantage in chess is based on POWER, power to control, power to intimidate, power to oppress, power achieved by patience, in this case lying in wait for over a century, evil power from understanding dark sentences, power from honoring the god of forces, forces vastly advanced and absolutely superior, power from unlimited control over global wealth, every aspect of this joint beast power is global in scope and is ALWAYS veiled in deception (black is white, poor is rich, weak is strong, defeat is victory, benevolent is evil peace is war! etc.)

    So will the US lose it’s global dominance after the coming certain economic collapse?…Not hardly!
    The highly complex Global banking system, global finance, global currency (US dollar), derivatives (financial weapons of mass destruction) was created and jointly controlled by the first beast (unnamed for simplicity) and by the second beast (the US empire). The second empire’s one and only, through out much of it’s history, (horns of a lamb speaks as a dragon) perfected method is DECEPTION! A strategy, guaranteed to ensnare and to subdue and or destroy!…In this case trickery through fiat, debt and gradual currency debasement, through lying indoctrination, propaganda “causing” distorted bias (perception) perceptions created by the satanic beast’s genius from the very beginning in order to gain world dependency on the global banking system and then in order to gain total world enslavement and worship, to intentionally destroy it!…All the while having planned far in advance a flawless highly advanced unprecedented cashless system coupled with an overwhelming surveillance system….And he (the second beast) “causes” all both small and great rich and poor, free and bond to worship the beast and receive an identification mark or die (yet live) ….check mate to all those (the world over) deceived by and who wondered after the beast!

    • Hi David McAuley,

      It is always possible that America will rise from the ashes, but it won’t be the America that we know. Judgment is coming to America, we will have to see what happens after that.

      Just be careful not to be married too closely to any one theory. You don’t want to be blind-sided.

      I recommend that you exit ground-zero as quickly as possible.

      Thank you David,

      John Little

  7. I hope you publish my comments, to God be the glory!
    I wasn’t aware of your 300 word limit, perhaps you could split it up into two separate response’s?

    Thank you,


  8. If anybody knows the Word of God in full context and well about the rapture described in 1 Thes 4; 1Cor 15 from verse 50, then they will recognise when it will happen in cronological order of the book of Revelation.

    So as it was revealed unto me by God during April 1982.

    Here is the timing and just after that, the last 3 and half years will start before tge fisical coming of Jesus Christ.

    Here is the clue, but knowledege of the rapture scriptures very important, otherwise it will not be recognised.

    Rev 10:4-7 but with the emphases on verse 7: Opn 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
    The books of Revelation 9, 10 and 11 must be stacked upon each other as al that things will happen almost together with the sound of the last trumpet, also known as the seventh trumpet for the rapture.

    Just after the blow of that specific trumpet, God will poor out His anger on the earth for the last three and halve years before the fisical second coming.

    May all who want eternal life, come to God Father in Jesus Christ, washed in His blood and be saved in Him.

    • Hi Gert van Kraayenburg,

      Great point. You are not the first person to point out that the ‘rapture’ will happen at the seventh trumpet of Revelation. If I had to pick a point in the Bible, I too would pick this point.

      Having said that… there is some wisdom in treading carefully, since the Bible does not explicitly connect 1 Corinthians 15:52 to Revelation. It sounds right. It feels right. And, the events surrounding sounding of the seventh angel seem to indicate this… but, it isn’t something that we can say “Thus Saith The Lord.”

      Now, are you preparing for what’s coming?

      Thank you, Gert!

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little

  9. Dear Brother John. It seems that there is some confusion about the Gog-
    Ma’gog timeline. It will not be in 2016 or 2018. We don’t need to guess. The
    witness is Rev. 20:6 through 9. It does not happen until after the 1000 year
    reign is coming to a close. Satan has to be released for that short season to
    allow the spiritually dead (those that did not partake in the first resurrection)
    to choose who they want to follow. Keep in mind all are, and have been
    in spiritual bodies for a thousand years. Satan and his evil spirit has been locked
    away for a thousand years. The dead have had the opportunity to learn the truth
    for a thousand years without Satan’s evil influence. How many will still choose to
    follow him to Gog and Ma’gog? Rev 20:8 The number of whom is as the sands of
    the sea. AMAZING! Keep reading and you will see what happens to them.
    Armageddon happens at the end of the antichrists tribulation at the end of the
    6th trump , Rev. 16:16. At the 7th trump Jesus Christ returns and his tribulation
    begins. It will not take long for King of kings and the Lord of lords to restore
    order. Every knee shall bow, even those who pieced him. Witness Rom 14:11
    and Rev 1:7.
    Jesus advises those that are in Judea to flee that area when the antichrist sets
    up shop. Witness Matt. 24: 15 thru 18 and Mark 13:14 thru 16. I noticed in some
    previous comments some folks were thinking about fleeing to that area? I’d
    say prepare where you are with extra provisions and means to protect your
    family and those provisions. God may direct some to shelter in place, witness
    Isaiah 26:20, or God may direct some to flee as in Rev 12. Some will be called to
    witness for Christ sake and be martyred. Witness Rev. 20:4. Pray that his will be
    done. On the other side of all this is a tremendous reward. May God bless all
    that are diligently seeking truth. May God Bless John Little.

    Your Brother in Christ, Ron Hauser

    • Hi Ron Hauser,

      I’m sorry, but if you compare the events surrounding the Gog and Magog in Revelation and the Gog and Magog in Ezekiel, it will be clear that they are two different situations.

      At the end of Gog and Magog in Ezekiel, Israel is saved and joins herself to God. And, the allies of Gog and Magog in Ezekiel are specifically listed, and they do NOT contain everyone on the planet. Go and read what happens during the time when Israel is saved. There are a ton of scriptures dealing with this.

      In Revelation, after Gog and Magog, the world is destroyed and we come to the final judgment. Furthermore, allies of Gog and Magog are the entire population of the Earth. No exceptions.

      You just cannot compare these two. Worse, you are forced to distort the Bible to describe these two battles as the same event. And, THAT is forbidden.

      I understand how people got caught in this erroneous theory. The names Gog and Magog are unusual. But, so is my name (but, less so), but every time you see the name ‘John Little’ doesn’t mean that it’s me. (although, some have tried to make that claim)

      Yours in Christ,

      John Little


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